LadyLucy76 | 651 points
BREAKING: Anon Claims FBI Insiders Can Confirm, Intelligence Community Indicates John and Tony Podesta Were in Praia da Luz, Portugal on May 3rd 2007the-bigot | 47 points
Now this is real pizzagate shit !! The efit photos compared to the podestas photos are fucking mind blowing. and remember if they were involved with maddie they never abducted her but purchased her from her parents.
sheik_yerbouti_jr | 11 points
The pic of the girl apparently similar to Madeline may be dead end. This girl is supposed to be the granddaughter of Podesta IIRC.
The info could come from a shill, though, and needs checking.
Fraplet | 14 points
She might be his "granddaughter", but that doesn't mean she is birth or blood related.
They could have adopted her after the abduction, (they have the means and connections to do it if they wanted).
They could just call her their granddaughter, even if she never legally got adopted.
It's a lot easier to take a complacent sex slave on trips with you if she is called your "granddaughter". (Or niece, etc.)
debtrevolution2016 | 12 points
The girl in the photo with the cards IS NOT MADELINE MCMANN. It is John Podesta's granddaughter... how many times do we have to say it?
She is the daughter of Megan Rouse, John's daughter. The picture of them playing cards is clearly just that... them playing cards.
Not saying pizzagate isn't real, I'm almost sure it is. But you've gotta think a little more clearly.
sheik_yerbouti_jr | 2 points
That's a possibility. number of years would match, Madeleine would be 13.
PizzaBurner0 | 2 points
Checks out it is Podesta's granddaughter, in my opinion.
Here's a pic of the granddaughter slightly over three years ago: https://onedublin.org/2013/01/30/megan-rouse-wins-provisional-appointment-to-dublin-school-board-of-trustees/
The noses are the same, in my layman's opinion
nottheoretical | 3 points
Whoever she is, the girl looks miserable, but i guess anyone might be miserable with that wretch for a grandfather
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the-bigot | 14 points
it is, the parents are super shady and suspicious af too, look into them, they have connections in the uk government which is a cesspit of paedophilia, they refused to answer questions etc etc. and please note that if they was working class brits they would have been charged with neglect and maybe lost their other kids to social services.
Tootenbacher | 6 points
Gerry McCann had a child protective services file opened before Madeleine ever went missing, but mysteriously the contents were blank (i.e. wiped).
Also, their friend David Payne, who was on the trip, had a file as well.
There is a statement to police from people they had dinner with in Portugal that Gerry and David talked about Madeleine at dinner and made crude blow job motions when talking about her - I think their name is Gaspar. It's on the internet for anyone to read.
the-bigot | 2 points
i have heard all of this before too, i read somewhere that not long after the twins were born maddie lived with her grandparents for a while at least, i cant find anything backing it up now but i 100% read it from a msm source.
Tootenbacher | 1 points
I think I've heard that as well - but it may have been from when the McCanns were on Oprah or some other TV special.
There are some good websites/forums that archive every article, police report, etc. Jill Havern is one (just google the name and you'll see it). You may be able to find a copy of the article on there.
the-bigot | 1 points
i have been down the rabbit hole before but years ago, looks like im going back in, thanks for the jill havern info :)
Tootenbacher | 7 points
Most parents would say their child is gone, or missing, or even simply "not in their bed/the condo" - not that someone's taken them. That's your worst fear, and you wouldn't voice that because it's too horrible.
the-bigot | 4 points
holy fuck lmfao, never have i seen a more relevant username!!!! and a 4 year old one at that!!! are you trump from the future? or the famous Russian hacker known as barron?
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IoPA_inOR | 3 points
but purchased her from her parents.
some of the rituals/beliefs require "purer" bloodlines
LeonJKV | 3 points
How has nobody bothered to check that those efits were made of the same suspect, not two...? Not trying to put a damper on this piece of evidence but the police clearly stated in a summarizing article I read about the McCann case the efits were of the same suspect.
qkrnxtl | 2 points
Isn't it possible they thought they were looking for one suspect but the efits were actually based on two different but similar men?
DragonAdept | -7 points
efit photos compared to the podestas photos are fucking mind blowing
Except for a few teensy problems.
Firstly the two pictures are two different versions of one person's recollection of one person. Not two people.
Secondly the Podestas were way older than that person of interest.
Thirdly police say they interviewed and cleared that person of interest.
This is just idiots on the internet seeing shapes in clouds.
PrideofOshTekk | 12 points
No Scotland Yard changed their views on this. They are different people. Stop spreading disinformation, pedophile.
So many people have made the same point as you on this subreddit and in the conspiracy subreddit and they all got debunked like the idiots they are.
the-bigot | 6 points
thanks for the info mate, but how the fuck can one person describe one suspect to the police and they come out with them two completely different looking guys? sorry if this doesn't make sense lol, i haven't slept yet.
DragonAdept | 0 points
My guess is that people's memories and ability to describe faces are just not that good. So if you do the same process twice you are not guaranteed to get results more similar than, say, the degree to which two brothers look alike.
AUScentipede | 1 points
the only source i have found which indicates the sketches are of the same suspect and not two is from the wikipedia page which is easy enough to change if you're a respected author. Where did you get this info?
DragonAdept | 1 points
Pizzagate... where wikipedia is worthless and what some anon said on 4chan is BREAKING NEWS.
LadyLucy76 | 43 points
In short Sources the article put the Podestas less than 1 mile from McCann at the time of her disappearance.... and they were staying with (a now deceased) alleged pedophile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m87-hM96o
sheik_yerbouti_jr | 19 points
alleged pedophile
Very likely a pedophile:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/sir-clement-freud-exposed-as-a-paedophile-as-police-urged-to-pro/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/clement-freud-national-treasure-just-a-minute-paedophile-mp-a7083976.html
kannibalsoup | 10 points
Some articles relating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659322/Police-launch-probe-Freud-knew-Maddie-uncover-new-details-ex-MP-s-disturbing-relationship-McCanns.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/681098/Paedophile-MP-Clement-Fraud-Madeleine-McCann-Kate-Gerry-Portugal
Jesus_balls | 5 points
Holy fuck son. I really hope the good guys win on this one. Justice is within our grasp. Don't the podesta emails start just a few days after her disappearance, too?
alien_baboso | 1 points
They seem to start the day after her disappearance, but that is because Podesta deleted every single mail before that date.
LadyLucy76 | -7 points
there's also a thread on this conspiracy website Godlike Productions ...it is long but there's lot of details and ideas shared...
TimIsColdInMaine | 15 points
I am a little surprised we are having so much trouble identifying if they were actually out of the country during that time period. They were still high profile back then, Is there anything we might be overlooking to help assist with correlating their location?
PizzaBurner0 | 0 points
AH HA! Incriminating, isn't it, that we're having trouble determining where he was! Sorry, going back to real digging...
TimIsColdInMaine | 1 points
I can see having problems figuring out his location on a random day almost 10 years ago, but I am a little surprised that we cannot figure out a definitive YES/NO if they were in the country. Oh well. I'm not fixated on the Podestas being involved in Madeline's disappearance, but I thought that could at least open or shut the door on looking in to it
ghost_soul167 | 0 points
Don't know if he was out of the country, but he was definitely out of the office on the day after Madeline was kidnapped. His email account was being used by someone named Elizabeth.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9364
Dawdleydoo | 6 points
The first photo is of Podesta's grandaughter
bandola | 5 points
Do you have another link backing that up?
Dawdleydoo | 9 points
I must have saved the link on my computer as I can't find it on my phone, I'll have a look once I'm home
thebabyseagull | 4 points
I have heard this floated around but can't find any confirmation.
Please post the link?
minase8888 | 2 points
I know it's a stretch but just because it's supposed to be the granddaughter it might still be a replaced child?
debtrevolution2016 | 6 points
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/49177
look at the attachment of this email and tell me that isn't John Podesta's daughter Megan Rouse emailing pictures of the same girl (her daughter) about the first day of school. THIS IS NOT MADDIE MCMANN. You idiots are so easy to jump at any conclusion with no evidence.
There is no reason to believe that these photos show maddie mcmann.
We have leads with definite merit. Epstein, Silsby, Haiti, Monica Peterson, Comet and Alefantis, etc. This is not one of them.
foreskinremovalcream | 1 points
I think the news article is crap. Although there's one ridiculous possibility.
Podesta somehow kills/loses daughter/grand daughter. Buys/steals a replacement.
Main give away would be in the eye. I can't see it there.
hildass | 6 points
There is still no proof they were there in 2007 on the 3rd May on this article (not that I see anyway)
PhunnelCake | 1 points
It was in the emails. John had received an email from someone asking how Portugal was . Dates matched up with the disappearance. Would like to see evidence that they had rented the Villa tho
Fraplet | 12 points
I have been very actively following the Podesta emails and pizzagate since day one, and I have never seen such an email. Source?
There is an email that puts Podesta in Portugal during the same month...but 7 years later.
The most "incriminating" things in the emails (as far as I know), is that Podesta seemingly deleted ALL his emails prior to the exact day Maddie was taken.
Podesta was also apparently indisposed during the Maddie disappearance timeframe, as Podesta had an assistant write his emails for him for a bit after the disappearance.
shortymcbossypants | 2 points
Is there a possibility that they travel there every year around the same time for some sort of Satanic ritual? I know as a Jew for me that we keep Passover around the same time every year, but not the same exact dates. Same with Christians keeping Easter, Christmas and what not.
PrideofOshTekk | 1 points
In that email it was confirmed they were on holiday, but not in Portugal in particular. The location was never specified.
ghost_soul167 | 1 points
This email is from May 4 2007. It's John Podesta's email, but the email is composed by someone named Elizabeth. Maybe a secretary answering emails while he's away?
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9364
debtrevolution2016 | 6 points
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/49177
The girl in the card picture is NOT MADDIE MCMANN. PLEASE stop saying this. It is an utterly false and foolish proposition that has no evidence to back it up. Follow the leads that have evidence. This one has been a dead end for weeks.
AnonIDIOTA | 3 points
http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/01/06/reports-police-know-who-kidnapped-madeleine-mccann-can%E2%80%99t-arrest-them
I posted this before, but its super interesting. From 2014
T2AmR | 1 points
I find it suspicious that they reported on this at all. Who at FOX decided to run this story? Was it done as a favor to the Podestas to take the heat off of them?
IVoidbringer | 1 points
not only could FBI anon be literally anyone, but wasn't it confirmed on this very subreddit itself that the podestas weren't actually in portugal in 2007?
ghost_soul167 | 1 points
Hard to tell if he was, but we do know he was out of the office on May 4 2007 since his email was being written by someone named Elizabeth.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9364
IVoidbringer | 1 points
out of the office is one thing, confirmed as being in portugal that's an entire different kettle of fish.
Do we have any sort of standards or what in here? feels like it's slipping
Bikertron | 1 points
John Podesta looks like a not-that-obese John Prescott. They're both whales but Prescott is worse.
spysnipedis | 1 points
the only bad thing is a chit load of the FBI anon stuff did not come true, but some did. but then again that's like throwing a plate of spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks, eventually you will get something right.
but who knows, take everything with a grain of salt.
II---II_II---II | 110 points | Nov 21 2016 10:46:34
FBI Anon could be literally anyone. Why is it we are so quick to take the word of anyone on a site deliberately designed to be anonymous?
I not saying the story is false but people keep jumping down rabbit holes void of critical thinking and this article doesn't persuade me otherwise.
We risk being baffled by bullshit.
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LadyLucy76 | 16 points | Nov 21 2016 10:49:48
that's true, if anything the points they bring up are something to consider if/when more info is discovered.
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[deleted] | 11 points | Nov 21 2016 10:52:23
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Artck | 7 points | Nov 21 2016 16:27:45
I'd probably give it more credit if I saw the FBI Vaults Twitter account release some documents relating to Portugal or something like that.
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spontaneousspectator | 11 points | Nov 21 2016 20:22:06
One thing that did give FBI anon legitimacy is that several months ago they named the seemingly random time: Nov, 1st at 11am and that is the exact moment when the dormant FBI twitter handle started posting stuff
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User1556788 | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 14:39:58
The blogospere is a crap shoot. Sometimes they are ahead of the game and legit but more often than not theyre just putting up BS to get clicks.... if you get 100k views a month you could be pulling $3k+ in ad revenue so the incentive to make shit up for clicks is definitely there
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JordanESK | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 22:08:39
FBI Anon knew about the SAPs before anyone else, so he has some credibility.
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[deleted] | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 22:12:55
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JordanESK | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 22:16:26
Pure speculation on my part. You'd have to prove it was the same person operating the computer to post those messages, and how am I going to do that?
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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 22:18:02
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JordanESK | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 22:22:00
FBI agent or not, he had outstanding insight into the state of current affairs at the time, assuming it's the same person posting, which leads me to take the information he gave with more than a grain of salt. Still though, stay wary.
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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 22:30:04
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JordanESK | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 22:52:23
Now I see what you're saying. Alright, skepticism heightened.
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