that_70s_kid | 48 points
Is anyone looking at the whole Michael Jackson thing a little differently now?
No really sure what to say about it - but hell.
Edit: Not implying guilt towards MJ here. If anything he may have been a victim beyond our ability to comprehend at the time.
sunkenberries | 11 points
Yeah, Michael was obviously scared shitless and I don't blame him.... If these gguys were blackmailing me and everyone simply dismissed it as me being schizophrenic/Wacko Jacko I'd go insane.
Honestly I don't know the details but do you think Michael was forced to have surgery, defamed for pedophilia simply to show Michael what they are capable of doing to him?
The_search_awaits | 8 points
Thats a crazy theory though anything is possible. Maybe he was one of the kids who was raped and he couldnt look at himself anymore and changed everything about himself.
that_70s_kid | 2 points
Good observations man. I don't know - I've never given it any thought till just a moment ago.
Jobymontana | 2 points
No. He wanted (or actually his brain self defense mechanism) to do away with his 'old' personality since it didn't serve him anymore. He changed his physical 'self' along with it.
wildonrio | 9 points
I saw Michael Jackson listed in Epstein's black book. I also saw Trump's family, but not Trump himself.
ddot196 | 9 points
I've watched some documentaries on mj and I gotta say, he has definitely been through some shit as a child. You can see it in how he talks, interacts and lived as an adult. He was a phenomenal singer but had some serious deep rooted issues. I know he had multiple lawsuits/complaints against him in regards to children being at his place. It all makes a little more sense now...
Mylaptopisburningme | 9 points
No. I am no Corey Feldman fan, but he has defended MJ.
that_70s_kid | 4 points
I'm not even implying guilt. All the problems that man had, perhaps he was more of a victim then I would have given him to be at the time.
adamunknown | 6 points
fascinating read:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/michael-jacksons-neverland-ranch-mind-control-programming-site/
irufema | 3 points
WTF? If you think that he had something to do with this pedophile ring or some shit - no! He was innocent, he had a trial, they never found any CP in Neverland, they found nothing on him. People who accused him had a history of fraud and they were crazy as fuck. Go to read the court transcripts and stop fucking comparing his accusations to this pizzagate shit, because they are two different cases. You obviously know nothing about MJ, so please, go to read court/FBI documents, learn something and stop saying stupid things.
that_70s_kid | 7 points
Easy. I'm not implying guilt at all. Perhaps MJ himself was a victim - and all this shit shows how terrible that could have been.
TexasBorder | 4 points
Exactly, there is a possibility that it would be so easy to deflect suspicion from others because of how weird MJ looked.
irufema | 0 points
He was a victim yes, his father was crazy and verbally abused him, but I don't think he molested him. Or anyone else.
adamunknown | 5 points
you should really reconsider what you think you know - the media has manipulated us all
they DID find CP at the ranch
the Sherriff just released pics and a list this year - the MJ family sqaushed the story
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/
irufema | 5 points
"Mr. Jackson did possess “photos of nude children but they weren’t sexually graphic,” Mr. Zonen, a former Santa Barbara assistant DA, said. “They weren’t children engaged in sexual activity, and there was no child pornography. There were no videos involving children. There were videos that were seized, but they were conventional adult sexually graphic material. No children involved."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/23/authorities-rebut-claims-child-porn-found-michael-/
adamunknown | 1 points
you are in serious denial my friend
the books WERE "art" books of nude children!!! nothing sexualy graphic, but so what!!! who collects art books like that with out having a serious interest
the photos were on Radar of the evidence - but taken down within a week. swept under the rug
I liked MJ as well.....it was a shock to know, one day you will discover truth, as long as you are not blind to it
irufema | 2 points
Are you stupid or just a troll? There wasn't any book with nude children you dumbass, just an art books. The author of the alleged "pedophile book" debunked this story as well and he's very angry at the media. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-artist-photo-michael-jackson-1.3651598 In 2003 they found books with nude children, but it wasn't fucking CP ok? Photos of nude children aren't automatically CP, there were some photos of Lord of the Flies movie or some shit like that. 100% legal. Period.
adamunknown | 1 points
wow seriously - if you are going to defend his book collection of nude children as "art" then you should know you sound just like a typical NAMBLA member = YOU ARE THE TROLL
ok....lol.....
believe what you want to believe - I saw the photos of evidence, legal "art" or not - it was of NUDE CHILDREN - and many involving BONDAGE
what dont you get about that?
FOUND THE RETRACTED RADAR ONLINE ARTICLE WHICH WAS SAVED
LOOK FOR YOURSELF (SAFE TO VIEW / NUDITY CENSORED BY RADAR)
https://web.archive.org/web/20160621193645/http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf
STARR OCKENGA was the author of one of the books called "DRESSUP": (NSFW NUDE "LEGAL ART" CHILDREN)
https://www.google.com/search?q=starr+ockenga+book&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRsKbzhbrQAhUB9GMKHWKlBDEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1242&bih=602#tbm=isch&q=starr+ockenga+dressup
With Marina Abramovic and Tony Podestas "art" - we are now aware many of the people attracted to these sick things do it under the guise of "ART " - the line: "it's just art, protected by freedom of speech" is a full on bullshit excuse
ART OR NOT - THIS IS WRONG FOR A SUSPECTED PEDOPHILE WHO HAD CHILDREN SLEEP IN HIS BED TO OWN
irufema | 2 points
Ok, they were nude, so fucking what? I'll just repeat what the attorney R. Zonen said: "They weren’t children engaged in sexual activity." He was in the court and he knows what they found and what they didn't found. I don't have to believe that he was innocent, I KNOW it. He was found not guilty because they found nothing illegal in his house. The jury couldn't convict him just because he had some legal art book in his house. And what about M. Angelo and all of these nude little cute angels on his paitings and Sistine Chapel ceiling? He was a pedophile too? Lol.
adamunknown | 1 points
another book they found in his collection - even more disturbing than "art nudes"
ROOM TO PLAY by Johan
these depict Occult, Death, and Nudes.... clearly "innocent" right?
https://www.google.com/search?q=room+to+play+johan&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAyt-oirrQAhVS_mMKHc8BCGEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1242&bih=602
irufema | 2 points
The fake/original photo I gave you is pretty much the evidence that whatever they're saying now in the tabloids, it's fucking fake. It's a fake story. I'm done, if it's more convinient for you to believe a fucking TABLOID, instead of what the attorneys or the police had to say, then I have nothing to do here.
adamunknown | 1 points
I dont understand - first you say this was all faked by Radar, now you are defending the right to own books of nude children.
troll much?
irufema | 2 points
Omg. The article by Radar WAS FAKE. The books which they found in 2003 were just art books, there were photos of nude children, but it wasn't child porn. It wasn't sexual or anything like that.
irufema | 1 points
It won't open, I don't know why but I'm assuming that you're talking about these photos? http://www.allforloveblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/meowKittens.jpg
adamunknown | 1 points
not looking at that link, sorry can you describe it?
-what wont open>?
irufema | 2 points
Your link, it's loading and loading and it won't open, I'd love to see it but I can't. But if it's an article from Radaronline, then I saw it earlier. Don't worry, you can open my link, it's nothing illegal. It's an original photo from the book and fake photo from Radar article.
irufema | 1 points
This story is fake and created by the shitty tabloid Radaronline. He wasn't even living in Neverland after the 2005 trial, so how they could find anything there after his death? It doesn't make any sense. They didn't even search this place after the trial because they had no reason to do so, they couldn't go there without a search warrant or suspicion of commiting a crime. The prosecutor who worked on this case and police debunked this story and said that they found nothing illegal in Neverland.
adamunknown | 1 points
lol it's like you never heard of a cover up before.... the evidence was ADMITTED as evidence in 2005, not found in 05
irufema | 2 points
They searched his house TWICE and found nothing. They wouldn't let him free if he had something illegal, believe me. Well, you don't have to believe me, just read the court transcripts.
Ninjakick666 | 2 points
Yeah... I think the whole problem with MJ was he was ordering "off-the-menu" way too often... same thing that got Weiner busted.
jonnythaiwongy9 | 2 points
His father was clearly deranged, and used to beat the shit out of them. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was severe sexual abuse, and to find that he pimped them to various industry people. Most abusers have been abused themselves, which is why i always thought it was entirely possible, even likely that MJ became one. He was clearly severely disturbed,.
MolochSupporter | 17 points | Nov 21 2016 05:09:37
His kids with the masks.
He probably wasn't protecting them from the public, but from the murder rapists cannibals that surrounded him.
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that_70s_kid | 6 points | Nov 21 2016 05:17:51
Crazy possibility.
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The_Watterboy | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 05:31:47
Just from the paparazzi i think
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adamunknown | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 14:35:27
like they didnt know who his kids were, they were probably programmed/involved as well
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