iHaveDamningEvidence | 108 points
What kind of evidence do you guys need from us?
Okay, let me clear up some misconceptions (we still are forced to use tactical misinformation to cover our assess (limited to time, date, etc, BUT NEVER VALIDITY OF INFORMATION , I am sorry we are forced to for our own protection).
Here is what we have (admittedly stolen so far):
2GB of Pedo videos and photos (which I posted as proof for those who doubted me, but since child rape photos are illegal, I can't keep posting the proof). Reddit has since deleted the rape photos, but, I could post a video of a girl being anally raped in a metal cage if you guys want more fucking proof.
Perhaps 1 or more fully cloned Hard drive.
Encrypted list of monthly clients generated using a bizarre .exe program:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5e0i3m/here_is_the_encrypted_client_list_for_we_the/
He says this file was found on the Desktop of a computer running Windows XP, I have also run the .exe sandboxed, and although it does try to phone home I have not been able to reproduce the PGP message or the London IP call. We are working on getting the private key.
/u/wethepizza_the2ndGuy IS working with me. He is working on trying to decrypt the message.
But I (we) really want to know is, what proof do you guys need for this to be verified? I already posted the child rape as proof, "We are Pizza" took their site down 2 hours after I went public, so I ask again what more proof do you need or want?
Torrenting via TOR is advised against, so uploading the cloned Hard drive is more difficult then it sounds. But we are going to do whatever it takes to prove our case.
UPDATE:
We used social engineering (with the help of our 3 letter friend to go in under cover as a computer repair tech). That's how he got the 2GB pedo photos/videos and unconfirmed Windows XP cloned hard drive. And he just walked out with the data dump. We don't even know where each other currently is at.
What a lot of people don't understand is that .PDF's can "phone home", we are currently trying to remove the "phone home" feature before posting Price List.pdf file.
shot-by-ford | 61 points
All. Of. It.
NAOW!
Seriously, put it all up now. DUMP DUMP DUMP and we can verify it as we go along. Especially get that client list program out and the HD!
Post ALL the faces/bodies of adults on reddit. We can analyze. Put the CP somewhere safe. Don't dump it on Reddit.
edit: Also, I'd recommend leaking out to as many local lawmen, sheriffs, and news agencies as you can.
a-SynKronus | 15 points
There were no faces of adults, /u/SarahAssange (unfortunately) went through the trouble of doing so apparently
shot-by-ford | 16 points
That was just ten photos of some 2GB OP purports to have. We need anything on those adults we can get if this is for real. Tattoos, piercings, scars, anything.
blurrech | 13 points
Praise their kind-hearted soul. We're here for you /u/SarahAssange if it starts to get to you.
tridentgum | -19 points
You shouldn't be - why would they "confirm" it's what it's claimed to be in the first place? That's not their job and it doesn't even fucking confirm anything - it could just be random and not related at all.
/u/SarahAssange - you are fucking disgusting and / or a complete fucking idiot.
blurrech | 13 points
Whether it was irrational or not is irrelevant, what matters is one of our own went through a horrendous experience because they thought what they were doing was right. Your black heart is devoid of empathy.
PeppeLePoint | 12 points
some of us are old hat at this. Just because you dont have a background in LE doesn't mean some of us don't. Trust that there are good people out there who have experience in developing cases like this.
PeppeLePoint | 14 points
I should note:
Worked extensively with security personnel (mainly analysts with regional sheriff's and 3-Letter) selling software that enabled surveillance. Most of those guys/gals are some of the smartest, most capable people around.
They have hard jobs and experience dealing with CP cases and such, so if OP actually has info, they should submit it to as many people as possible.
FatCatFetish | 4 points
The mods are advising to contact authorities and lawyering up but if they swoop on the lawyers that you guys hire (who probably won't give a shit about your cause) could easily turn on against you guys and you'd be swatted down and smothered without a squeak. As soon as you have something solid, for example, make some breakthroughs with the client list, spread it like a wildfire on the internet so it can never die. Once it leaks out, it's impossible to contain and even though a lot of people are suspecting the validity and legitimacy of the post. However the fact that this is getting so much attention and pressure with all these fishy shutdown attempts going on should tell us that we are pretty fucking close to unveiling these abominable beasts.
jfdr | 34 points
OP is probably trying to get the sub shut down for linking to CP. [Remember this?] (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/pro-bernie-sanders-facebook-page/2016/04/26/id/725883/)
fuckingLARPers | 6 points
this. Added with the site going down it would be a VERY smart counter psyop. I'm not buying this anymore as anything but a coordinated disinfo attack or a troll.
this is fucked up
honestlyimeanreally | 2 points
Someone needs to Create an alt sub.
Someone with verifiable non-shill history.
/u/PixelBot
PixelBot | 3 points
No, I don't want to be a mod, or a sub leader. I don't want to be in a position of authority or trust. I want people to question everyone.
If I get a mod position, my credibility is gone, and goes against my entire post history.
I do appreciate the sentiment though.
the-definitive | 1 points
That is what I think as well. If it gets out that people are claiming to be illegally stealing info from companies and bragging about on the internet, MSM will gobble it up and everything is done for.
GimmietheRedPill | 25 points
No clue not tech savvy, but if you're bullshitting I hope you do 20 years in prison with child porn distributor tattoo' on your forehead.
ZempOh | 23 points
Torrent via VPN of the .exe, you also said you had html source code from the site before it was changed. Post it.
Naalu | 20 points
Ok this is getting kinda ridiculous.
Blind_Sypher | 23 points
What better way to shutdown this sub then to put out a honeypot and implicate a bunch of its users in the very thing theyre investigating.
Its_A_Jeep_Thing420 | 15 points
Put everything on multiple flash drives and send it to all the main stream media outlets
diceblue | 7 points
Pretty sure that counts as highly illegal distribution of highly illegal material. Very bad advice.
thispizzaiswhack | 15 points
2GB of Pedo videos and photos (which I posted as proof for those who doubted me, but since child rape photos are illegal, I can't keep posting the proof). Reddit has since deleted the rape photos, but, I could post a video of a girl being anally raped in a metal cage if you guys want more fucking proof.
valet_bonum | 15 points
so uploading the cloned Hard drive is more difficult then it sounds
No it's not.
Upload, or disappear. If you were competent enough to get the data, you're competent enough to upload. If you don't upload, it didn't happen. We're not paying any more attention to you until you actually do something.
Its_A_Jeep_Thing420 | 10 points
You should actually reply back to our questions if you want us to believe you
mconeone | 10 points
Start with screenshots of folder contents. Include date created and any other pertinent file information. As was said elsewhere, post the raw HTML.
If you have the stomach for it, try and find faces. Make sure to not include ANY CP. These can be cross referenced against existing images and missing persons lists.
CaptnMeowMix | 10 points
At the very least, try something like this:
fuckingLARPers | 10 points
welp, finally got me out of lurking. I will say in advance that IF -- and that is a very big if given your behavior so far -- I'm wrong I will gladly and fully apologize.
This reeks of utter bullshit. I don't care if you're uncomfortable with TOR or unfamiliar with 4, 8, etc chan. Judging by your formatting in every post so far you are at least familiar with reddit formatting. ergo, you have time to type this up neatly for all of us. ergo, this does not come across as someone in fear for their life willing to dump everything to get the information out soon before something sacrificially bad happens to them. No, this comes across as something as an ARG and I'm now waiting for the product placement announcement.
I know there's a mix of bad blood and lovehate between reddit and the various chans, but the one thing we can agree on is that we do NOT fuck around or about with CP. I'm personally going back to focus on actual ongoing concrete information. If you're serious, thanks for the heads up and next time ask mods of any similar subs for help because this was embarrassingly incompetent.
but if this was you grabbing your 15 minutes of fame, congratulations. You got it plus several hours. Please do not ever come back or waste our time again with this fucking bullshit.
SarahAssange | 9 points
post evidence that those pic are from WTP , post the pricing spreadshit and crop the face of the rapist then post it as well
Bulbizar | 9 points
Even if it was allowed, posting a random childporn picture is useless if there is no direct link to wethepizza in the picture. And it was really stupid to do it in the first place btw.
Also I don't know if it's a strategy to cover your ass but your stories aren't coherent ...
Corpsedust | 9 points
Stop posting here , your posts sound like bad spy fan fiction. And the people on this sub need to stop being so gullible you guys are just eating this up.
kudunotplz | 8 points
How do we know what you have is from the source you claim and not from a personal stash?
ExtraCheesyPie | 8 points
What a lot of people don't understand is that .PDF's can "phone home", we are currently trying to remove the "phone home" feature before posting Price List.pdf file.
Go to settings
Click "Disable wifi"
INCREDIBLE LEVELS OF HACKING
Pr0xyGh0st | 7 points
I'm not discrediting, just a thought. What if this dude's gf found his cp and this is his way to cover it. Lol.
"Uh, gf. It's not mine. I hacked a pizza site. Quick, Google pizzagate."
TrumpVsSoros | 6 points
If all this is true the world needs to know. Find a way to get the most damming evidence to as many people as possible so it can't be ignored. I don't even care what the content is, people need to be angry so balls start rolling anyone but under the rug.
trabidius | 6 points
Lol, you guys sound like shills. Just the way you try to make us seem crazy for not thinking you're for real.
Good LARP though, got me truly hooked.
Its_A_Jeep_Thing420 | 5 points
We need a video of you actually acquiring the information or you need to tell us exactly how you got your info.....and post the price list
Kaisernegro | 4 points
if anyone says "for science" I'm going to scream.
iHaveDamningEvidence | -1 points
The other guy got the data dump, and no he didn't film himself doing, WTF would he do that????
We used social engineering (with the help of our 3 letter friend to go in under cover as a computer repair tech). That's how he got the 2GB pedo photos/videos and unconfirmed Windows XP cloned hard drive. And he just walked out with the data dump. We don't even know where each other currently is at.
What a lot of people don't understand is that .PDF's can "phone home", we are currently trying to remove the "phone home" feature before posting Price List.pdf file.
mambomentality | 38 points
Take a fucking screenshot of the pages
JimmyDeSanta | 3 points
Man, I almost feel bad for this guy..
I'm really starting to think a rookie troll just pissed off 4chan and 8chan.. And committed highly fucking illegal activity while doing so.. Dude.....
Being banned from this sub is nowhere near as bad as the shit that will happen to him from 4ch and 8ch, when they legit doxx this guy and report him to the FBI for posting that bullshit.. Wow.
Meh... Have a feeling this troll is going to be used as an "example"..... If you catch my drift..
popcorn
derpex | 3 points
I mean, they don't have to dox him. He distributed CP, lol. If they care enough, the FBI will just subpoena reddit for his info and throw him in the party van.
valet_bonum | 15 points
List of things we need you to do:
List of things we don't need you to do:
This is a crowd-sourced investigation for a reason: there are people who will do the things you can't do.
If you're for real, the amount of stalling your doing is absolutely retarded. Basically, it's like if you had the cure for Cancer, and you didn't release it because first you had to bust Big Pharma, or give it a pretty font.
Recap:
Upload, or go away.
ZempOh | 12 points
Post the fucking file and let people who have better hacking skills than you take a fucking crack at it. Quit fucking beating around the bush. Post proof or gtfo. And no CP is not proof. For all we know that is your own personal stash.
shot-by-ford | 9 points
I'm going to hunt this guy down and ruin him if he made people here look at the very thing we are so disgusted by. I will fucking ruin him. God damnit. I think we may have been swindled.
tridentgum | -2 points
Nobody made anybody look at anything. If you did, you're a fucking retard. Why would you need to "confirm" that it is, indeed, what he says it is?
shot-by-ford | 9 points
I did not open any files.
That said, he did lead people here into looking at CP, maybe for no reason except his own amusement, in which case he's a complete asshole. And deserves the same fate as the lot of these fucks.
Escape_TheMatrix | 9 points
what you don't seem to understand is that we don't care what the pdf does. alot of us know how to handle these things. just post the stuff so we can all work on it. otherwise just post the text from the pdf on pastebin, i mean how hard is that?
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ImAMenace | 2 points
Try to avoid copy/paste as it makes it more difficult to weed out bots.
I understand you commented here like this and then needed to add to the OP, but do avoid this process in the future.
thestealthsuit | 2 points
We don't care if it phones home. Offline yourself by any means, take screenshots, move screenshots to an USB drive and publish them here.
open_ur_mind | 2 points
So let me understand your situation. You, and another "hacker" along with a friendly alphabet, have colluded to infiltrate WtP and clone a computer. You don't know where your hacker friend is, and alphabet won't help? So what do you do? Go to /r/pizzagate and spill your lid about everything, while dumping CP. Is that about right? Why not ask alphabet what to do?
As far as I'm concerned, this is a honeypot until proven otherwise. Anyone clicking links that are unfamiliar need to wipe their computer with a cloth, ASAP.
stopcensoringpizzag8 | 1 points
Yea, fuck this bullshit about removing the "phone home" feature for now. You can screenshot and upload the list, "phone-home" feature-free. Not that hard. I think you're full of shit, if you're not then prove it immediately.
AnonSquidSubmarine13 | 5 points
Your going too get banned, and if you had any real evidence its never going too reach us. Most likely your a troll
Skibiribiripoporopo | 5 points
We used social engineering (with the help of our 3 letter friend to go in under cover as a computer repair tech).
Idk... Seems like someone with this kind of stuff wouldn't just call a tech guy and leave them at the computer...
that-guy-is-it | 2 points
Could be that its an actual pizza store as cover, and that the employee who let them access the computer is just a guy working the actual pizza store and had no idea what was there.
pepperonis_for_eyes | 1 points
or like someone else suggested, 3-letter friend gave him an official referral to purchase the material.
valet_bonum | 3 points
What a lot of people don't understand is that .PDF's can "phone home", we are currently trying to remove the "phone home" feature before posting Price List.pdf file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmVWOtgseg
Blind_Sypher | 3 points
We need you to fuck off. You already admitted to working with government assets. Are you that out of touch that you think we'll buy into this shit because FBI anon had some pretty good success on 4chan? Your probably some old Fuck who touches kids yourself.
tridentgum | 2 points
actual evidence? maybe you just hacked their site to have "coming soon" display for a few hours. or until they realized it and put it back.
TiddiesNBeer | 2 points
I'd say send it out to every news organization, 3-letter organization, local PD, and definitely send it to Breitbart and Infowars. Considering Bannon will be in Trumps admin, he could potentially hold the information and sit on it until then and then he's in a position of great power where it could actually be put to use. Infowars, we know Alex Jones is an amazing mouthpiece and would absolutely spread it like wildfire to the public. PD and 3-letters might act on it, might not. Worth putting it out there at least so in the future it can be called back to/they can't refute knowledge of the videos/pics/etc. Mainstream, you might get lucky and someone dissatisfied with their job puts it on the teleprompter to read or runs it at the bottom of the screen.
fajuu | 2 points
Spreading it like wildfire right away will just make the MSM sink it down to "another crazy conspiracy theory by Alex Jones."
illBoopYaHead | 2 points
With we The Pizza's website going offline and then coming back up with the login page removed I find this all very suspicious
ZipperDoDa | 2 points
They would have been getting the reddit hug of death, and loads of people trying the admin/password combos.
razz_my_berries | 2 points
Under OP's profile the tinyurl link of supposed CP is still on Reddit. How the fuck is this possible? I sure as fuck aint clicking on it to verify, but if it is CP, OP would be banned from Reddit almost immediately.
pizzathrowaway777 | 1 points
UPDATE
The level of incompetence in this "hack" is extremely concerning. I am not sure what OP was trying to accomplish, but without the private key this is useless.
Please provide all of the data/files/html as evidence to MULTIPLE PDs (local or otherwise including the NYPD) before posting on the internet. You need to protect yourself, and establish a chain of evidence. Contacting an attorney is also very critical. If you do not have an attorney, get one asap.
If you do provide "evidence" on the web do it in an encrypted dump in bittorrent, all users should be careful and protect themselves, this could be a honeypot.
No one cry wolf without validating OP's "evidence". Bringing false leads to the authorities is a surefire way to lose all credibility for this sub.
edit: Other users have pointed out, with good reason that local PD alone may be complicit and may not be the course of action. Simply linking on the internet is not how you bust these people though. You need to get as many eyes on the evidence as possible and make sure they understand you want to establish a chain of evidence and that your life is in danger.
edit2: added request for encrypted bittorrent dump, and piece about false reporting to authorities
edit3: contact attorney
jfdr | 3 points
DO NOT USE BITTORRENT. Your IP address is broadcast to everyone who is downloading or seeding the file.
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pizzathrowaway777 | 3 points
We are not censoring the posts which if we were compromised we could easily do.
We are warning our readers/users and we have very good reasons to be concerned.
They are spamming us with this for 10+ hours now and not released any legitimate evidence and have broken Reddit TOS.
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newfoundland_urth | 1 points
You are concern trolling by suggesting that the person that started this sub is somehow trying to destroy legitimate leads. If these posts are legit these guys strategy was piss-poor. It was terribly executed. Even if it was a hoax it was terribly executed.
19-80-4 | 1 points
This is retarded with the PDF phoning home garbage. You shill. You uploaded the CHILD PORN. YOU'RE IN THIS DEEP. Stop fucking around if you aren't a fake and get the lists online now.
Your life isn't going to be the same anymore. Dump the drives online and disappear.
RandyContractor | 1 points
We used social engineering (with the help of our 3 letter friend to go in under cover as a computer repair tech). That's how he got the 2GB pedo photos/videos and unconfirmed Windows XP cloned hard drive. And he just walked out with the data dump. We don't even know where each other currently is at.
So the good news here is that if you cloned the hard drive then you have the MAC addresses of the hardware you cloned. They cannot modify the MAC addresses so the only way for them to cover this up is to utterly destroy this machine and replace it.
Throw that image up on a torrent as others have suggested, then make NYPD aware of it (anonymously) immediately. Make sure NYPD knows that WTP are aware that they have been exposed and are likely destroying evidence so they should get a warrant ASAP. Even if they wipe their server they can't hide the MAC address so they will have to destroy it. Might suggest to them to go dumpster diving. They (WTP) might be that stupid.
Turnipstew | 1 points
Maybe post faces of the suspects rather than the victims. surrounding scenes just not the victims please don't.
J_O_N_Y_ | 1 points
upload everything or we will report you for spreading CP. The fbi would love to lynch some loser like yourself in order to cover for some higher ups. be smart and stop fucking around with this shit. you are in deep shit already.
wizacre | 1 points
I could post a video of a girl being anally raped in a metal cage if you guys want more fucking proof.
That is just nasty.
I'll pass, thanks.
the-definitive | 1 points
If this is real, everything you said is super fucking illegal. You detailed how you broke into a company illegally and then stole their stuff, illegally. And their stuff is illegal. Get a damn lawyer and good luck.
edit: who the fuck creates an exe for a simple list? nobody.
rsz1974 | 0 points
Why would anyone in their right mind want to watch PROOF? If he did post "proof", why would you click on it? And for fuck's sake, if you REALLY DO HAVE THIS KIND OF EVIDENCE - what the hell are you doing on REDDIT?? Get it to the proper authorities! No one wants to watch child porn! I certainly fucking don't. I don't need proof - I know this obscene evil shit happens in the world, so quit fucking around on reddit, and get it to the right authorities.
InvestigatePizzaGate | 0 points
SPAM @h3h3productions twitter to INVESTIGATE #PizzaGate They have a mass audience on Youtube and can wake up many people #HELP
stereoblind | 63 points | Nov 21 2016 01:41:37
sigh .. guys, this is fake. It should have been obvious from the start when he put up a tinyupload link to actual CP. This is a hoax created with the purpose of logging your information. OP hasn't responded to anything and he won't respond to anything because the damage has been done. He got you. They won. If you clicked on those links, I'd go throw your computer in a river or some shit.
Don't fall for this again. No one is going to come in here and say "hey I found a pizza place that had a secret link to CP, here's a download link for 2GB of it!" with the actual purpose of helping the investigation. No one with a functioning brain would do that.
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penguinpiss | 5 points | Nov 21 2016 04:02:31
They generally do not go after the downloaders but the distributors. If you've browsed the hell pit that is 4chan, you've likely seen some and the FBI did not immediately crash through your door.
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whitedeer27 | 4 points | Nov 21 2016 04:26:02
Because Spike Mendelsohn isn't important at all. His ties to Andrew Kline aren't important. Regardless of this leak being real or not, this is a huge lead/break. This is not the direction a troll would lead us. Spike had pics of Obama and Saudis on his instagram.. you're saying we were misdirected to think someone is a peso hanging out with Obama & Saudi Arabia?? That doesn't happen.
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stereoblind | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 04:58:42
Did I ever at any point in my comment say that this Spike dude was unimportant? Nope . I just don't want anyone here going to prison and I'd like people to stop falling for this kind of stuff. Never mentioned Spike. Didn't need to.
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certified_dude | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 21:48:58
Seriously, this sub just imploed. I'm seeing a disgusting number of links to CP popping up in posts, reporting every single one. I'm in disbelief that members of this sub would be so fucking dumb to directly link to the content we're fighting so hard against. Fuck these disgusting sacks of shit spreading these images, you should be ashamed of yourselves and hopefully will be having a talk with local authorities soon.
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