RainforestRabbit | 218 points
RE: WeThePizza (CP uploads) need help connecting dots.
EDIT 1 formatting EDIT 2 Spike Mendelsohn is the "head chef" at We The Pizza (the site of the company that a poster earlier claimed to have hacked)
EDIT 3 Why in the fuck would this be marked honeypot/hoax? I've submitted only links to Imgur and to Google search results - furthermore the posts connect KLINE to WeThePizza, so I wouldn't call that a hoax (unless ALL connections to Andrew Kline (you know, BESTA PIZZA) are also hoaxes.
Okay. I searched google for: mendelsohn filetype:pdf and this came up.
Kookoovaya, Inc. is listed as "we, the pizza" headquartered in DC.
Google Searching Kookoovaya yields surprisingly few results.
Image searching Kookoovaya yields WEIRD results, including jewelry with pedo symbols, and owls and shit. There are some photos of a small child with an owl that the 'child' named 'kookoovaya.'
I can't dig this rabbit hole up without help; the coincidences are building up too quickly to be written off as such.
RainforestRabbit | 35 points
ANDREW KLINE represents We The Pizza, KOOKOOVAYA, AND SPIKE MENDELSOHN.
http://imgur.com/a/cKOtt
whatiswalnutsauce | 21 points
And Besta Pizza? Wasn't Andrew Kline also connected to Besta?
quantsphinx | 33 points
cookoovaya = OWL in Greek
Podesta keeps inviting TOP CHEFS to the White House, always includes James Alefantis.
WE THE PIZZA, COMET PING PONG, BESTA PIZZA, GOOD STUFF EATERY, BUCKS HUNTING AND CAMPING
all have secret sites - encrypted
nottheoretical | 7 points
Who's ready to bust into the other places' files?
coulditbe223 | 10 points
saw this on the 4chan thread: http://wethepizza.com/admin/login actually does take you to a login page.
Someone have an email pass combo they'd like to try?
SkullSoupBowl | 5 points
I'm sure that wouldn't be hard to crack if you got a high level employee or director's email address. Remember how retarded John Podesta's password was? It was some Spaceballs shit. "12345? That's the same combination I use on my luggage!"
peyton_montana | 3 points
Is James Alefantis connected to WtP or Besta?
Azuule | 6 points
Yes, through David Brock(founder of CTR, media matters funded by soros) (his boyfriend) . According to CTR logs, WtP is Brock's "favorite pizza place"
TheUplist | 1 points
Kabbalah is rampant in all of this. Search Tikkun (spiritualist paper) in podesta emails
RainforestRabbit | 32 points
I don't know why this is being marked "likely a hoax." The sources are pretty cut and dry. I was pretty skeptical of the original "WeThePizza" hack, but did just a LITTLE digging and posted some weird coincidences; furthermore, https://www.reddit.com/user/whiskeynightmares posted this:
http://abra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/abra/publication/attachments/WeThePizza-3112015.pdf
to quote another user, "where there's this much smoke there is likely fire"
asg_ | 1 points
Where I can see the origin/original "wethepizza" hack? I would like to follow this chronologically.
TimIsColdInMaine | 1 points
i've gotta catch up on your thread here but i wouldnt worry much about the tag. maybe mods didnt believe your story, maybe they are compromised as suspecred
whiskeynightmares | 28 points
so the wethepizza website is completely down now it just says "coming soon".. i was on the locations page less than 5 min ago wow
whatiswalnutsauce | 7 points
Wow, okay that is odd and sort of suspicious. Maybe OP actually DID hack their website. I don't know how to do any of that though and couldn't help uncover whatever OP did.
RainforestRabbit | 2 points
http://imgur.com/a/cKOtt
coulditbe223 | 2 points
What are you inferring? honestly wondering, a lot of this is scary to me, but I am supremely curious.
RainforestRabbit | 5 points
Kline is connected to some pretty...interesting...people/things. search this subreddit for him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/search?q=Kline&restrict_sr=on
WhiteHatRasta | 4 points
https://web.archive.org/web/20140831173420/http://wethepizza.com/
p_za | 18 points
why are these threads being removed, and being tagged likely hoax? i dont really want your opinions mods until something has been verified either way
coulditbe223 | 12 points
yeah....whats the deal with that? why even bother putting 'likely hoax' ?? wtf?
19-80-4 | 11 points
No one gives a shit about a mod's opinion on a topic. Let's just keep looking at this info.
whiskeynightmares | 27 points
and related to that pdf in the OP
http://abra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/abra/publication/attachments/WeThePizza-3112015.pdf
Specifically, the Notice charges the Respondent with the following violations: Charge I: Charge II: Charge III: [On July 24, 2014] [y]ou allowed the sale or delivery of alcoholic beverages to minors in violation of D.C. Official Code § 25- 781(a) ... [On July 24, 2014] [y]ou, or your agent or employee, did not take steps reasonably necessary to ascertain whether any person to whom the licensee sells, delivers, or serves an alcoholic beverage is ofiegal drinking age in violation of D.C. Official Code § 25- 783 ... [On July 24, 2014] [y]our establishment did not have an ABC manager on duty while serving alcohol in violation of D.C. Official Code § 25-701 and 23 DCMR 707 ...
seems like they were selling alcohol to minors
robotjoystick | 3 points
PDFs are easily made malicious. Someone should examine it and confirm sanitation before people go around suggesting others download it; malicious PDFs are a sure fire way to get owned and be none the wiser.
You dont have to listen to me, but I think it's prudent to be careful here.
Related but not - dont forget TOR users were owned via javascript exploits, and, while this is entirely different, it's worth considering the potential to accidentally pop yourself.
I can try to confirm its sanitized later but maybe someone else can do it before me.
whiskeynightmares | 1 points
it's a gov document from the DC alcohol control board... i don't think it's anything malicious but with what's been going on lately... who knows anymore
i don't know how to scan these type of things either oops i hope i didn't fuck up my computer
lo-lite | 18 points
If you search "1.6027165339" from the domain info (another moment in this thread also) you find the company:
http://www.winup.co/contact-us.htm
They hosted an AL QAEDA WEBSITE???
https://www.google.com/amp/s/pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/al-qaeda-website-ansar-al-mujahideen-forum-hosted-in-burlington-massachusetts-by-usa-company-just-16-miles-from-boston-ma/amp/
Search the number + 'pizza' and LOOK HOW MANY RESULTS COME UP HOLY SHIT SO MANY PIZZA SITES
RainforestRabbit | 12 points
UP-VOTE FROM ME!
WHY IN THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT BEING MARKED HOAX?! THERE IS CLEARLY SOMETHING GOING ON. I don't give two fucks about upvotes for myself. I care about TRUTH being disseminated. How is it possible that these disgusting motherfuckers that RE-FRAME/SHILL/MOD(?) here sleep at night KNOWING that truth is being snuffed out by their own actions?
DonaldTrumpIsAChomo | 13 points
They paid a service to block their registrant info from ICAAN.
Domain Name: WETHEPIZZA.COM
Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domain.com
Registrar URL: www.domain.com
Updated Date: 2016-09-26T15:53:05Z
Creation Date: 2009-10-06T01:12:24Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-10-06T01:12:24Z
Sponsoring Registrar: Domain.com, LLC
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 886
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: compliance@domain-inc.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6027165396
Reseller: Domain.com
Domain Status: ok https://icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Registrant Organization: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Registrant Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Registrant City: Burlington
Registrant State/Province: MA
Registrant Postal Code: 01803
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.6027165339
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: wethepizza.com@domainprivacygroup.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Admin Organization: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Admin Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Admin City: Burlington
Admin State/Province: MA
Admin Postal Code: 01803
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.6027165339
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: wethepizza.com@domainprivacygroup.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Tech Organization: Domain Privacy Service FBO Registrant.
Tech Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Tech City: Burlington
Tech State/Province: MA
Tech Postal Code: 01803
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.6027165339
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: wethepizza.com@domainprivacygroup.com
Name Server: NS1.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS2.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS3.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS4.NAMERESOLVE.COM
valet_bonum | 9 points
Absolutely everyone uses WHOIS protection; there's nothing suspicious about that. It's one of the things that web-building platforms like Godaddy try to force on you.
lo-lite | 4 points
Holy cow look dude they hosted Al-Qaeda website??
https://www.google.com/amp/s/pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/al-qaeda-website-ansar-al-mujahideen-forum-hosted-in-burlington-massachusetts-by-usa-company-just-16-miles-from-boston-ma/amp/
stopcensoringpizzag8 | 3 points
I'm not 100% sure, but I searched their who.is when the thread first broke and I think the who.is info was different earlier. Did they just purchase privacy today? Fuck, I should have screenshotted.
peyton_montana | 2 points
It was previously registered to Avraham Mendelsohn.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dzlw4/re_wethepizza_cp_uploads_need_help_connecting_dots/da8q9hq/
lo-lite | 2 points
HOLY SHIT search the number in quotes plus the word pizza. SO MANY PIZZA SITES
rutkdn | 2 points
The 602 number belongs Endurance International Group which owns a bunch of hosting companies.
infinitecharger | 1 points
602 is an area code in Phoenix, AZ. Idk if that helps at all but I found it interesting.
safebrowseatwork | 1 points
This is basic Whois protection, nothing major there.
Others have suggested that it was recently changed, however --
rutkdn | 1 points
The 602 number belongs Endurance International Group which owns a bunch of hosting companies.
AbortionBurger | 12 points
For what it's worth, the OP is my husband and his research is valid. You can check my history for validation.
DonaldTrumpIsAChomo | 10 points
You bitch! OP is my boyfriend!
whatiswalnutsauce | 3 points
Yeah well OP is my great, great grandpa so you both have some explaining to do to the rest of our family.
RainforestRabbit | 6 points
shit. sorry guys, i knew i should have used a throwaway. I will create new realities for all of you later.
[deleted] | 2 points
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AbortionBurger | 5 points
.... you found my boyfriend from 8 years ago? Okay. You definitely did not. Give me his name and I'll believe you.
[deleted] | -3 points
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PraiseBeKEK | 9 points
IF YOU ARE INVESTIGATING, DONT CLICK ON ANYTHING WITHOUT VPN AND TOR BROWSER!!!
dragnar1212 | 8 points
w8 so that creapy guy whit 2 gb of data might really have a smoking gun ?
And how to fuck where they notified so fucking fast >
whiskeynightmares | 6 points
https://www.bizapedia.com/dc/kookoovaya-llc.html
The Registered Agent on file for this company is Professional Registered Agents Inc. and is located at 2600 Virginia Avenue, N.W.,suite 1112 Nw, Washington, District Of Columbia 20037. The company's principal address is 600 Virginia Ave Nw Suite 1112, Washington, District Of Columbia 20037.
related companies ? https://www.bizapedia.com/addresses/2600-virginia-avenue-nwsuite-1112-nw-washington-district-of-columbia-20037.html (several pizza places)
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_dc/EXTUID_2694738
Registered Address 305 Pennsylvania Ave. SE, WASHINGTON 20003 District of Columbia United States Alternative Names WE, THE PIZZA (trading name) We, the Pizza (trading name) Agent Name REGISTERED AGENT SOLUTIONS INC Agent Address 1090 Vermont Avenue NW, Suite 910, Washington, District of Columbia, 20005 Inactive Directors / Officers MENDELSON, HARVEY, governor Mendelsohn, Harvey, governor REGISTERED AGENT SOLUTIONS INC, agent
kwame_kilpatrick | 1 points
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_dc/EXTUID_2694738
Just looking into some of these restaurants, this is pretty interesting. One of the restaurants is Nimelli's Pizzaria, LLC. Searching for that brought up this: http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020130710829/WISEY&
A lawsuit, with this tidbit...
Nimellis alleges that in the summer of 2011, through its owners, agents, or employees — including Awadallah — Wisey's told its own customers that Ashgrizzadeh was a "psychopath" and a "child molester" while disseminating his sex offender registry information to them. See id. ¶ 15. Nimellis also alleges that in or around February 2012, Wisey's through its owners, agents, or employees sent text messages to Café Romeo's employees that contained Ashgrizzadeh's sex offender registry information. Id. ¶ 17.
kwame_kilpatrick | 1 points
More:
Audeh also allegedly said that Ashgrizzadeh had molested a nine-year-old boy and was a pedophile in front of several unnamed patrons and two named employees of Café Romeo's. See id. ¶ 20 & n. 2. Two regular lunch customers present for the alleged incident have not returned since. See id. ¶ 22.
kwame_kilpatrick | 1 points
Here's another weird one. Chef's Expressions http://www.chefsexpressions.com/ the head chef https://www.weddingwire.com/wedding-news/http-www-chefsexpressions-com-february-wine-supper/08516e9bea863cff.html
Baltimore Child Abuse Centers presents a Chef's Expressions Perfect Match Wine Supper
Seems like a weird pairing.
beiherhund | 4 points
https://web.archive.org/web/20161031001023/http://wethepizza.com/about/community
WE are all about community. If WE don't help, impact and serve our community, who will? We are very proud to work with the following organization to strengthen our community. If you are interested in becoming a WE, THE PIZZA sponsored organization contact us.
HORTONS KIDS Horton’s Kids is a nonprofit that provides comprehensive services to the children of Washington, D.C.’s Ward 8, improving the quality of their daily lives, and nurturing their desire and ability to succeed.
PixelBot | 3 points
Very good work friend.
I want to encourage you to keep going, you're going to be a hero to children.
peyton_montana | 3 points
Hope this isn't a repost, but Kookoovaya............
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dzlw4/re_wethepizza_cp_uploads_need_help_connecting_dots/da8hqat/
This_There | 3 points
I am only driving by on a suggestion from /r/The_Donald and most definitely not trying to concern troll. The whole "pizza" thing is a rabbit hole I haven't gone down. May I offer a suggestion to this sub?
As someone who is aware of pizzagate generally but not the details, it is challenging on first read to link gigs of illegal child pornography to a pizza parlor with reviews on Yelp, Trip Advisor, and (the totally cucked) WaPo.
Providing more detail does take more research and more writing. That said, I do not have a good answer on how to balance the internal subreddit discussions to support vs telling a story to someone new to the thread.
Again, having spent many hours reading Clinton Foundation emails for financial stuff, I know this research is like finding lost keys in a rain forest at night with a lousy flashlight. Doing it for vomit-worthy child porn is unimaginable; you all have my sincere respect. This is not my gig, but I am damn glad we have redditors willing to take it on.
TL;DR: some of the pizzagate stuff is outlandish at first read, probably because dumb crooks go to jail. Is it possible to explain a fast-moving story in a way that makes sense? If not, I'll continue to follow pizzagate stories at a distance and go back to stuff like Soros' investment portfolio and politics.
streezus | 2 points
Spike Mendelsohn was a contestant on Top Chef. Not relevant, but I knew that name was familiar. He always wore fedoras IMSC.
RandyContractor | 1 points
is this anything?
streezus | 2 points
I mean, he lives in DC and is a professional chef, so it's not too surprising. I looked through some of the related social feeds, and unlike Comet, these places actually post pictures of food, and their pizza actually looks pretty good. I'm not discounting the lead, I'm just saying from what I know and what I can tell, this seems like a legit business.
Could be a legit lead, could be someone using pizzagate to drum up PR.
BruceWayne1970 | 2 points
I know it's totally OT, but their pics of pizza does look pretty damn good. Now I'm hungry.
peyton_montana | 2 points
Someone mentioned that this guy bought the domain:
https://www.uclahealth.org/avraham-mendelsohn
Brother of Spike?
Edit: Source - https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dzxtw/holy_mother_of_god_guy_who_claimed_to_find_2gb_of/da8ppyj/
thispizzaiswhack | 2 points
http://abra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/abra/publication/attachments/We,%20The%20Pizza%20-%20May%2022%202013%5B1%5D.pdf koookoovooya images pedo jewelry
http://abra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/abra/publication/attachments/WethePizzaetal-682016.pdf
andrew kline http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1479681151287.png
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1479669941285.jpg http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1479670375516.png http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/99455048
waiting for the key.....................................................
rhinoskin | 1 points
(the site of the company that a poster earlier claimed to have hacked)
Link?
coulditbe223 | 3 points
Theres alot of information regarding the thread from earlier here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dzgif/about_the_2_gb_cp_hacker_i_dont_know_who_to/ I believe there is also a link to the thread itself in those comments. if you want.
olikdw | 1 points
https://www.reddit.com/user/ihavedamningevidence
somewhere in the comments is an archived post of the site.
valet_bonum | 1 points
Kookoovaya does not bring up any pedo related material. Check your image sources more closely; they come from totally innocent places.
That jewelry is innocuous. You're dreaming up these 'coincidences'.
lionessjj | 1 points
So is this enough to get a search warrant of the premises before they hide all the evidence??
pizzathrowaway777 | 1 points
UPDATE
The level of incompetence in this "hack" is extremely concerning. I am not sure what OP was trying to accomplish, but without the private key this is useless
Please provide all of the data/files/html as evidence to MULTIPLE PDs (local or otherwise including the NYPD) before posting on the internet. You need to protect yourself, and establish a chain of evidence. Contacting an attorney is also very critical. If you do not have an attorney, get one asap.
If you do provide "evidence" on the web do it in an encrypted dump in bittorrent, all users should be careful and protect themselves, this could be a honeypot
No one cry wolf without validating OP's "evidence". Bringing false leads to the authorities is a surefire way to lose all credibility for this sub.
edit: Other users have pointed out, with good reason that local PD alone may be complicit and may not be the course of action. Simply linking on the internet is not how you bust these people though. You need to get as many eyes on the evidence as possible and make sure they understand you want to establish a chain of evidence and that your life is in danger.
RainforestRabbit | 2 points
I am not OP in relation to your post. you are referring to /u/ihavedamningevidence
all i did was do some basic looking into "we, the pizza" and found an interesting connection that hadn't been discussed before. there is nothing hoaxish about connecting KLINE with another, mildly put, suspicious pizza restaurant (accused of serving alcohol to minors)
IMHO, it's a very real possibility that the original poster was full of shit. BUT, it is definitely still in LIMBO so to speak, since we haven't had verification either way, and the site is now DOWN (not from a DDOS attack)
pizzathrowaway777 | 3 points
Sorry I was referring to posts by /u/ihavedamningevidence & /u/wethepizza_the2ndGuy
RainforestRabbit | 1 points
what's the difference between "honeypot/hoax" and "honypot/hoax" in the tagging?
InigoSkywalker | 1 points
Good god, Kookoovaya is the username of someone who is a jewelry seller on Etsy. You can follow through to her bio and facebook page etc..
InvestigatePizzaGate | 1 points
SPAM @h3h3productions twitter to INVESTIGATE #PizzaGate They have a mass audience on Youtube and can wake up many people #HELP
InvestigatePizzaGate | 1 points
SPAM @h3h3productions twitter to INVESTIGATE #PizzaGate They have a mass audience on Youtube and can wake up many people #HELP
TQQ | 1 points
God, will you just shut the fuck up with all the self promotion? That shit is WEAK dude. There are more pressing matters going on.
VintageDeath_ | -3 points
Jewelry is very important to me. I feel like a Toltec sky God when I wear every piece of jewelry that I own.
p_za | 49 points | Nov 20 2016 19:31:54
site is down completely now saying 'coming soon'.. seems pretty suspect
THEY TOOK THAT SHIT DOWN FAST.
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19-80-4 | 16 points | Nov 20 2016 20:21:01
What the fuck. The page was up when the hacker dude broke his cp bust. It's at "coming soon" now.
Was he legit? This is building up to a yes. Are they covering their tracks?
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coulditbe223 | 15 points | Nov 20 2016 20:29:42
On top of that: He literally said in the thread while it was happening that the site was being changed
Quote: "The site has totally changed"
Do you think he was watching them rewrite the source code while it was happening? Is that a thing? I don't make websites or write code. But this seems weird to me. He did say he got the data from their wifi/website right?
Cant remember as his original post is deleted still
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thegreatpizzawar | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 21:05:54
Good observation, I was wondering about that inconsistency, however now it seems consistent.
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peyton_montana | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 22:53:22
Or, he could have noticed the site was changed, and then came here with a "Here's why it's down...."?
Are you saying the site was verified to be up at the time he initially posted - and then came down?
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coulditbe223 | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 22:56:29
The site was in full working order at the time of his original post, and he made the comment that the site had changed entirely, and shortly after that (If I recall correctly, about 15 mins after) the entire site went into the current form: "Coming soon"
You can look around and find links to the archived versions of the wethepizza site yourself.
They're in this thread or another on this subreddit I saw them myself and I watched it happen in real time,
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peyton_montana | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 23:15:00
Okay, thanks. I'll be optimistic. I wish someone would have done a pre-screen capture. Did they/he?
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coulditbe223 | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 23:20:00
Well, strangely. The website is back up.
wethepizza.com
go check it out yourself
I am unsure what this means, if anything. I also am unsure if they changed any of the original website. Who knows.
Well have to wait and see.
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SarahAssange | 12 points | Nov 20 2016 19:44:29
Admission of guilt !
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Ohmz27 | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 23:26:25
The 2-man 'hacking' team may have appeared to be stumbling over each other and not entirely coordinated, but damn if it's true then they've played their cards well enough to get a very good reaction from WTP.
The 1st guy made it seem like they hacked into the website and ripped walled off data. WTP either were monitoring /r/pizzagate, or detected the files being ripped out and locked down the site. Guy #2 says it was actually just a full copy of the hard drive.
So blocking access to the site wouldn't protect them from further data leaks, but it tells us a few things:
They've shot themselves in the foot here potentially. Even if our guys didn't actually pull CP off WTP's computer, the reaction of WTP to guy#1's post tells a very suspicious story, and it looks like there are suspicious links between WTP and other dogdey people/places.
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coulditbe223 | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 19:45:01
What does this mean? As soon as I saw that, my butt clenched a bit. What reason could they possibly have for taking it down, and they did it right as we are all discovering it.
Seems really, really sketchy that it occurred just now.
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StopSoros | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 23:17:32
Get an archived version of the site ASAP. If they remove the archives there is no proof, only a file of illegal contents with no directions to them
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