SarahAssange | 324 points | Nov 20 2016 18:51:15

About the 2 GB CP hacker . I dont know who to believe anymore . Here is what I saw

Some people are claiming It was a fake . I don't know if it's true but here is what I saw AMA .

Zip file with 10 jpg file no virus detected or anything

Im still in shock of what I saw .The file he posted had 10 pic of 8 different kids

2 pic of an indian girl crying 5yo .

1 pic of a 4yo dark skin asian tied getting raped .

2 pic of a toddler being forced to oral sex ( white ) .
1 pic of 2 yo girl getting tortured with needles (white) .

1 pic of a 4yo girl getting raped(white) ,
1 pic of 2yo boy getting raped (white) .
1 pic of 4yo tied and full of bruises. 1 pic of a 1yo girl tied With ( please lick me ) written on her

there is no pic of the rapist's Face only their genitalia , the surrounding furnitures look cheap and poor

Metadata didnt show anything ( I verified for 2 pics ) , and it seems like it's different places , the kids were not abused in the same room.

I don't advise anyone to view download or save them , I described the content so people don't have to .

the pizza front he claimed has them is WeThePizza

Update : The hacked website WeThePizza is down !!!!!!!! This means He was telling the truth !!! WeThepizza is also connected to Comet pizza !!

( english is my third language sorry )

Edit :

We still didnt establish if OP is not a troll here is his original post :

"Hi, I am quickly posting this from a random open wifi so I will only will be available for questions about how to PROPERLY LEAK THIS only for 30 minutes for OPSEC reasons.

Let's make it quick with the questions, long story short: I cracked into a suspicious "pizza/family center" and their netsec was shit. I made off with an encrypted list of their clients, and 2GB of unencrypted videos, which after glancing at the site's source code, there was a hidden login that allowed you to view "actives, services, and pricing" after logging in, the videos/photos were under the "activities" and "services" page. Not sure if they are aware of my intrusion, so not listing the site yet.

So here is what I have, and how should I leak it?:

2GB of brutal videos and photos of little boys and girls being raped. ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING TO WATCH!!!!!

An unencrypted spreadsheet of the pricing for each act (rape $10,000, minor torture $35,000, severe torture $100,000 and murder $250,000). Prices were different based on if the victim was a boy, girl, white, black, and age etc.

And I have an encrypted list of all their clients.

Okay guys, how should I leak this? Should I just post the child porn? Is that even fucking legal? I feel I should submit this to the FBI but I DO NOT TRUST THEM and I have a strong feeling wikileaks is compromised as well. And if I don't login within 24hours tell my family I loved them.

FBI/CIA/NSA/LE/YOU EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS: I HAVE A DEADMAN SWITCH SETUP, IF I DON'T RESET MY SWITCH ONCE EVERY 12 HOURS IT ALL GETS RELEASED ON AN .ONION AND .I2P AND ALL THE LINKS GETS POSTED TO OVER 100 SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. AND I THINK SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS FACES ARE IN THE VIDEOS, SO DON'T TRY ANYTHING STUPID. "

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diesporea | 148 points | Nov 20 2016 19:14:09

You really need to be careful with what you click on and download considering that the FBI has run a honeypot for half of all CP websites in 2016 . That submission very much looked like an attempt to derail the crowd-sourced investigation here into high-ranking officials involvement in CP-related activities in a couple ways. One, linking this subreddit to the distribution of CP, and two, getting unsuspecting users/would-be investigators to possess CP. Be smart, protect yourself.

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SkillthoLaggins | 28 points | Nov 21 2016 03:45:16

Do you guys realize what this means? Any person in government who is a pedo could be traced, have their webcam accessed and be blackmailed by the shadow government via the honeypots. They could even slowly accumulate pedophiles into positions of power and force out non-pedos so they have total control via blackmail.

Once they control enough of the government they can be made to do things like what Germany did when they opened their borders. Or when Iraq was invaded under a false pretext.

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MAGABoomer | 21 points | Nov 21 2016 05:43:51

Give this poster a prize. EXACTLY.

There is currently a VERY SCARED very pissed of leader of a very tiny country full of asshattery with a very very dedicated and nasty intelligence agency completely devoted to this...blackmailing gov. officials.

There is ZERO to blackmail Trump over...this did not go according to plan...this is first hand knowledge..told to me immediately after the election. (I'm relaying it differently than told to me)

Suddenly this powerful asshat is under investigation himself....for corruption.

EPSTEIN....do you think...there were NO hidden cameras? Srsly...there were hidden cameras streaming direct uploads to this organizations special files...epSTEIN.

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UrBallsAreShowing | 7 points | Nov 21 2016 07:10:59

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/20/kissinger_donald_trump_is_unique_he_enters_office_with_no_baggage_no_obligations.html

No child molestation.

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MAGABoomer | 5 points | Nov 21 2016 07:14:06

Exactly. Nothing whatsoever to blackmail him with. Hence the literal world wide panic.

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msgtw123 | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 07:42:05

Funny, I never heard that mentioned. If Trump was the biggest pedophile rapist on the planet, do you really think you would get the news from Kissinger?

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OrangeDeer | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 06:35:06

Is this little country perhaps who i think it might be? (Hint: Mossad)

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MAGABoomer | 5 points | Nov 21 2016 06:37:43

It could be...yes that might be the one.

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OrangeDeer | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 06:50:32

Christ man....I've been thinking about this myself. Check out this article from 2015:

http://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/jeffrey-epstein-the-uncovering/

And then check this out:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t990494/

(I've never been to that site before, just found it through google)

So what the fuck? Seriously do the lies go this deep? This is Truman Show level illusion if that's the case. But it makes everything make so much more sense...

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MAGABoomer | 5 points | Nov 21 2016 07:04:32

I have been talking about the blackmail aspect for years...no one believes...but anyone who knows anything about $cientology absolutely believes. They perpetrated the single largest infiltration of the US gov. to date (make that known infiltration)...and got their nonprofit status by trapping the son of the IRS head in Mexico on film with a clearly underaged girl. BOOM instant non profit status.

They are and have been blackmailing government officials for YEARS>..the US gov. uses that cult to place assets...in other countries under the religious workers guise. If a cult does it...why the hell would we pretend the ONLY country in the ENTIRE WORLD that has over 300 UNINSPECTED nuclear weapons is getting everything they want from everyone they want...is not doing the same damn thing. A video of Hill licking a teen? OMG they have to be DYING that she lost... Obama hope and change...LOL we got short changed...he did passive aggressive shit to that teeny asshat...but nothing overt...he is gay or bi...and they blackmailed him...

they get their fingers in the pie by compromising people across the entire spectrum.

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marlybarrow | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 07:04:16

Why is Netanyahu scared and pissed off?

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MAGABoomer | 4 points | Nov 21 2016 07:10:41

He has zero to blackmail Trump with and never will. Trump smiled and shook hands but he also said he is cutting aid to the Middle East....hello. Israel has been assraping the US because JESUS or GOD for years..they have one of the largest oil reserves in the Middle East..found not so long ago...they do not need US money..they need our armies....

But since Trump..?

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.753798

this

NOW...after watching this...what do YOU believe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TG0vdzrmt4

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msgtw123 | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 07:40:26

You don't think there are skeletons in Trump's closet? Please. Let's stay focused. Turning this into some Zionists are taking over the world stuff will just discredit what we are doing.

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MAGABoomer | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 07:42:03

And woop there it is. ^ no body used the Z word but you.

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marlybarrow | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 10:05:52

There is ZERO to blackmail Trump over...this did not go according to plan...this is first hand knowledge..told to me immediately after the election

I read somewhere that Trump doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs nor does he have an internet connection, he's old school like that. So it doesn't surprise me that there is nothing to blackmail him with.

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youwillnotgetaway | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 21:11:15

tell people to be careful about clicking on links followed directly by an unidentified link...shill away shill bird

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shadilay | 18 points | Nov 20 2016 22:12:52

Do you not hover over links before clicking to see the URL?

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CredAndBercuses | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 23:25:25

Status bar is off by default on some browsers.

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disposable182 | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 06:25:13

what browser is stupid enough to turn that off by default?

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diesporea | 17 points | Nov 20 2016 21:29:02

You don't need to click that particular link. You can google "FBI half of all CP" and find multiple articles citing these efforts. Nice try attempting to steer the conversation though.

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CredAndBercuses | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 23:24:52

Status bar is your friend.

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[deleted] | 72 points | Nov 20 2016 19:13:27

Hard to know what to believe anymore, it really is an info war.

I'm thinking believe it's real, these sites are easy to hack, we're dealing with pedophiles who probably don't know much about cyber security. People keep asking for SOLID proof, well this guy seemed to have it, unfortunately the SOLID proof in this scenario is illegal to possess. It just doesn't make any sense to try and honeypot a bunch of redditors, these people are dealing with much bigger issues at the moment, they've gotta know the dam's about to break.

Anyways all just speculating, it struck me as real also, so hard to know what to believe anymore. I've always figured this evil Hostel/Saw type shit was going on throughout the world. Scary that we can't even trust contacting the FBI with this stuff.

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Stratovaried | 38 points | Nov 20 2016 19:59:05

Not sure how long the link was up, but if it was a honeypot, quite sure they would keep it up for longer. Starting to think that the OP was for real. One possibility was that someone was trolling or trying to destroy the pizzerias/owners reputation which seems kinda risky considering he had to upload CP to do so.

WeThePizza taking the site down tells alot though. If there is nothing shady going on, they could've just come public to share their side of the story.

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The_Watterboy | 28 points | Nov 20 2016 20:12:57

Agree - honeypot should stay up as long as possible to catch as many people as possible. I think the sabotage angle is a stretch. But it bugs me that the OP posted illegal images instead of posting his methodology so others could confirm what he did

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Stratovaried | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 20:19:31

Yea, its quite a stretch, don't think anyone would risk going to prison for that sort of stuff.

I agree that OP should've used some other way to show his telling the truth. Now we have no way of checking if those are hosted on the server.

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borrabnu | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 10:26:43

so that post quoted in the original post up there may have been a hoax? what is a honeypot? sorry i am so dumb but you seem like you know what's going on.

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Ohmz27 | 22 points | Nov 20 2016 22:25:59

It's simple, believe the worst. It's the only correct thing to do. The gravity of the crimes is too serious to treat it any other way. Governments are implicated in all this, we can't really afford to treat these people like they're innocent until proven guilty - if we ignore the suspicious activity it will NEVER go to a court room, it will NEVER be investigated, it will CONTINUE TO THRIVE. If the implicated are all innocent and pizzagate is BS, the implicated should (or will at some point) come forward and give reasonable explanations to all the suspicious activity we've been looking into.

As things stand, I've not seen a single implicated person step forward, claim to be innocent, and try to explain themselves. Instead i've seem the implicated curse at the accusers, edit websites and logos to cover up potential links, and/or stay silent. It's like instead of clearing their name, they are betting on and wishing for this all to be swept under the rug. Maybe they're innocent and just scared of the bad PR (and rightly so, it's a damning accusation), but they should understand the longer they play defensively, the worse it will look on them, specially after steps have been taken that prove some of the implicated are 100% aware of the suspicions. It only makes me more suspicious, and it should only make you more suspicious too. The train need to keep going until the implicated step forward and prove their innocence. Because if there's a shred of truth to pizzagate, it means children are being abused by big-wigs and the government is either directly involved, or allows it to happen. If that's the situation, we simply can't allow the offenders to keep their position of innocence UNTIL they actually claim they are innocent and offer explanations. IMO the reason nobody is doing that is because they're all fucking guilty. A scary amount of pizzagate theories are based upon actual observations, actual ties, actual links. It's getting more and more popular yet the stance of the implicate remains extremely suspicious and defensive.

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PeppeLePoint | 7 points | Nov 20 2016 23:22:43

Well a number of people on our side have the "original" files now. If it was all a honeypot, then hopefully people permanently remove the files and move on. I wouldn't necessarily worry at this point. There are enough skilled eyes looking into this that sooner or later, something has got to give.

My main worry is that if these sick pedo fucks do get caught, how much of the information relating to their crimes could be lost to time. So many innocents affected who will never have their story revealed.

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Sugarlief | 4 points | Nov 21 2016 05:24:57

That reminds me, did we ever hear back from the fellow in Hawaii who had found all the weird wifi signals under a concrete slab in the backyard of the house he was renting?

I believe he was working for a guy who was selling "trashed/ruined/old" hard drives on ebay, & the feedback was ridiculously excited ppl exclaiming how "it's so worth it"/"the real deal"/other strange, disconcerting shit to say abt old crappy hard drives.

I hope he got out & away safely. (。- _ -。❀)

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Veilaurora | 25 points | Nov 20 2016 20:41:00

Somebody (CIA or other people) is totally monitoring the situation on reddit and 4chan, twitter etc. Important links on twitter are getting deleted in minutes if not seconds. Reddit is too public for this stuff. They have plenty of time to destroy and fake new found evidence.

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[deleted] | 27 points | Nov 20 2016 20:46:37

Yeah I realized all this stuff is being heavily monitored at the server level, so not even with mods or anything, this stuff is being tracked by people with the highest levels of access within Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Google, probably 4chan maybe even 8chan. I had an old account that got banned but I had been doing tons of Pizzagate research and probably had over 50 posts/comments randomly deleted. Google is a big part of the information suppression they're making it really hard to find the smoking gun within this whole mess. Anyways they've gotta be shitting bricks, the deleting of evidence just furthers the suspicion this is all real.

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PeppeLePoint | 20 points | Nov 20 2016 23:24:50

Shitting bricks is not even the half of it. People who aren't related to abuse, but instead are related to suppression will be facing life in prison for their role.

Anyone related likely will also have to watch out for public backlash including vigilantism. The day of the rope is nigh .

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Sister_Lauren | 7 points | Nov 20 2016 22:30:30

You betcha!

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Veilaurora | 13 points | Nov 20 2016 21:29:24

Reddit is too public. You should try and create similar groups via steam/gog and similar platforms and continue the investigation more privately, NOT abandoning reddit.

We can try to go to a subs like r/Parenting/ and alike with active userbase and just try to hijack the threads. I think it's quite a valid option at this point.

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whitedeer27 | 18 points | Nov 20 2016 22:07:47

go to christian subs. Anything socially conservative

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MAGABoomer | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 05:48:58

LOL no. Christian subs...no. Are you kidding me? Go research sexual abuse in Christian churches...silent lambs, and many others. This needs to stay public.

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whitedeer27 | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 06:20:03

Not what I meant. I absolutely want this to be maximally public. Am aware of christian abuse by LEADERS of church (often) - but if you let socially conservative people know what's going on they generally will want to take a stand against it very strongly. Am not denying church abuse at all.

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MAGABoomer | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 06:24:15

Yeah but stay out of the hierarchy...meaning organized...perhaps individuals...but the last place I'd take any of this is to a preacher or head of any xian org. People are really really stupid about church.

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whitedeer27 | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 06:25:44

Totally agreed.

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perfectdarktrump | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 01:37:58

What about sharing inside games?

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Veilaurora | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 01:41:33

I'm not investigating personally. Just sharing some ideas

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KatanaPig | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 23:49:04

https://www.ceddit.com/r/WhereIsAssange/comments/5dvr9m/we_have_been_infiltrated_by_jtrig_on_reddit_art/

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MAGABoomer | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 05:48:02

ANYONE who is on tape...is going to fight this to the bitter end to save their own asses. They compromise people at all levels...from cops to lawyers to judges...hell some of the compromise is even fake...meaning a set up...but that hardly matters once the set up person starts "helping".

There is literally no place to hide from them and they are not only watching..white and black hats, they are fucking collectively shitting their pants.

There is an internal war going on.

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Sister_Lauren | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 22:28:26

IMO anyone asking for "solid proof" is asking for evidence to either: 1 disappear it, 2 kill you with it, or 3 both.

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JuppeLePew | 49 points | Nov 20 2016 19:09:33

There is no proof these images came are relating to 'PizzaGate', it's likely they were ripped from the darkweb and posted here. My suspicion is a crafted troll, either for self-gratification, or to distract people from the real leads - accompanied by "CTR shills" calling people out who don't believe. If the compromise were real, non-CP material would've been released FIRST (my belief).

Regardless, proceed with caution.

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SarahAssange | 26 points | Nov 20 2016 19:18:42

True he should've released the client list and price list first

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a-SynKronus | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 22:05:33

Bro. Send someone a PM every hour. You need a deadman/arrested switch

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ArchonFall4All | 21 points | Nov 20 2016 20:18:11

A troll wouldn't post real CP that could land his ass in jail. Come on people, we're sacrificing rational thought in order to appear "objective." Remain skeptical, but don't be so quick to attack what could be a huge breakthrough

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Sparkling_Poo_Dragon | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:23:07

Except posting shocking images like that is something trolls have been known to do.

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19-80-4 | 18 points | Nov 20 2016 20:35:47

Trolls troll. They don't fucking post CP and end up in federal prison under a sub being actively monitored as part of a larger investigation by the feds.

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whitedeer27 | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 22:09:18

This is a real desperate act because where else do you go when the authorities you would hand this stuff to are the perpetrators and the media protect them. We are all there is folks. We are all that is left.

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pepperonis_for_eyes | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 05:07:38

i swear this shit's gonna be a movie some day. this is insane.

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Sugarlief | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 05:28:08

Husband & I said the same thing ~ it's like a really poorly written screenplay with WAAAY too fucking much insane shit going on. If a screenwriter tried to sell it he'd be laughed out of Hollywood...& that is saying something(。- _ -。❀)

And yet I believe the pedo ring & most of this horror is very real~ God I hope we can somehow help to stop them before more kids ...go through any of this ever again with this group of fucking putrid monsters~(❀︶︿︶)╭∩╮-ha, looks like I'm flipping them off as well as praying. Good.

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[deleted] | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 21:31:11

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Talska | 4 points | Nov 21 2016 00:17:01

TOR has been infiltrated iirc

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0ollo0 | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 02:24:32

You've heard that, but very few people on earth can know that for sure. You're probably thinking of a timing attack, which involves a malicious actor controlling entry and exit nodes. That's certainly possible, but this type of attack is typically irrelevant for Tor "hidden services" (.onion links) because the user's traffic is never routed through an exit node when visiting a hidden service. Though, if a malicious actor controls the hidden service itself and the right entry nodes, then a timing attack would be possible again.

Point is, it's complicated and we don't know for sure. In general I trust the Tor developers and they've put a lot of effort into mitigating various attacks. But, Tor alone is only part of a secure solution and it's definitely not enough in itself for dealing with highly sensitive material. I'm not an expert, but more complete security solutions often involve using virtual machines, Live USB Linux OSes that run entirely in RAM, connecting from a network away from your home, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timing_attack

https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/3ax2qm/how_vulnerable_are_tor_users_to_timing_attacks_by/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RAM

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Sparkling_Poo_Dragon | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:52:10

not all trolls live in the united states...

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The_Watterboy | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 19:35:08

He was supposed to release where he got them and how he got them, instead of the actual illegal images. The methodology is more important here, because that would have proved that it came from a ring

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youwillnotgetaway | -4 points | Nov 20 2016 21:35:29

THANKS PUPPET LE JEW

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WhiteHatRasta | 35 points | Nov 20 2016 18:58:06

I have it on good authority that these are real, although older images.

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valet_bonum | 23 points | Nov 20 2016 19:05:58

WhiteHat - I've been following this obsessively for an hour. Are you saying that someone has evaluated these images, and stated that they were probably ripped from somewhere else?

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WhiteHatRasta | 20 points | Nov 20 2016 19:11:44

Yes.

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19-80-4 | 5 points | Nov 20 2016 20:37:41

Exif data showed one of the images being from 2013. Not sure if these were just "catalog" images for a client sample in a bid for sales, or what.

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coulditbe223 | 10 points | Nov 20 2016 19:01:08

older? what do you mean by that?

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WhiteHatRasta | 18 points | Nov 20 2016 19:12:42

IF they were, in fact, taken from the servers in question

THEN the question is where did the images actually originate

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valet_bonum | 32 points | Nov 20 2016 19:15:55

If they were taken from the servers in question, then it's irrelevant where they came from. Whether We produced the images, or whether they got the images somewhere else and were just hosting them, a crime has been uncovered, and it took place at an establishment connected with Comet, et al. That's enough to prosecute and start busting this thing open.

The question is really, did the OP get them off the WiFi network at We, or did he just rip them off the Dark Web?

In the first case, he's a hero. In the second, he's criminal pondscum.

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coulditbe223 | 11 points | Nov 20 2016 19:20:24

His claim was that he got the images / data from wethepizza right? I just wanna clarify that because I was unsure.

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valet_bonum | 10 points | Nov 20 2016 19:23:35

Yes, that is what he claimed.

I really wanted to believe the OP was real, but this is all starting to crumble. OP originally said the Pizza place was 'Unidentified'. I also understand that he claimed these images lacked metadata.

Then he came out and named the pizza place, and then the images turned out to have metadata.

  1. That's fishy.
  2. The people analyzing the images are actively committing a serious criminal offense.

I feel really bleh about this whole situation now.

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coulditbe223 | 10 points | Nov 20 2016 19:32:18

I saw somewhere on the 4chan thread, people posting the Owner's (of wethepizza ) Instagram pictures. Dude was posting pictures of him and people he knows with several high level officials, and also of him in Saudi Arabia...Is there any merit to that you think?

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valet_bonum | 14 points | Nov 20 2016 19:35:22

We is in the same network as Comet, etc. So it isn't surprising that they are schmoozing with those figures.

That can mean either:

  1. We really is involved in Pizzagate
  2. OP knew about this connection, and specifically targeted We for plausibility.

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laviequotidienne | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 19:32:47

and now the site has been taken down. just says 'coming soon' on landing page

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valet_bonum | 12 points | Nov 20 2016 19:37:55

Idk how sketchy it is. Some angry Redditor claimed s/he was reaching out to We to let them know that a bunch of crazy idiots were spreading shit about them here. That was twenty minutes ago.

May have been a reaction to that.

They may have something to hide.

~~Maybe they were hacked by anons.~~

Just no way to know.

Edit: Admin page is still online. That rules out hacking. We pulled their website down.

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lionessjj | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:21:10

The redditor posted that in the comments?? Why would they do that? Even if we were all crazy, then why not just mind their own business? Does that person realize they could be helping sickos?

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valet_bonum | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 20:52:28

shrugs

I said that it was a lose-lose situation to inform them. If We is innocent, reacting will throw fuel on the fire (I was right: they took down their website, and now look at the commotion). If We is guilty, Redditor is helping to enable child abuse by informing We.

Redditor didn't care. We're a hated bunch, it seems.

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dragnar1212 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:46:29

if that guy was speaking truely he was already hacked by a anon XD

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coulditbe223 | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 19:35:16

Holy fuck, THAT IS super sketchy to me.

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ktbby1 | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 04:58:46

sites back up as far as I see

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Filmpolice | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 20:23:29

He said it was "unidentified" because he didn't think the owners of it knew about the intrusion, he was trying to keep it under wraps.

WeThePizza is now down. They are probably fleeing dodge as we speak!

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pepperonis_for_eyes | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 05:16:48

one commentor, I can't find who, mentioned that he saw a pizza place clearing shop and packing up a truck a couple days ago. Did anyone else see that?

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The_Watterboy | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:58:23

How did he present the link? I didnt see any links. Was he misleading, or did he say "this is a link to what I found". Everybody was telling him not to post it; they were saying just share the method. Thats what makes this all sound sketchy, that he would ignore everybody

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valet_bonum | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 20:01:01

He posted the evidence about an hour after his original post, and it was promptly deleted (duh). Several people looked into it, and verified it was real.

I agree this is sketchy, but I'm holding my breath.

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Filmpolice | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 20:22:23

We the pizza is now down!

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wahoosjw | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:22:13

Yes that's the claim, from the backend of the website

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stereoblind | 18 points | Nov 20 2016 19:19:52

That seems like classic honeypot tactics. No one will ever be able to verify where they came from unless you download the pictures. If you download the pictures, they have every reason to throw you in prison and now all of a sudden there's 50+ less people investigating pizzagate. As soon as those 50+ people disappear, everyone on this sub will notice, get scared, and will stop looking into it. I have every reason to believe WeThePizza OP is trying to bait everyone into a trap and no reason to believe he's legit. Providing a link to actual CP was not the way to go about this.

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Sister_Lauren | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 22:39:45

50? More like five. Most people do not look at that sort of stuff and ask others what they think of it instead. But yes, it would entrap the most bold and the most foolish. That is how they will pick us off, one at a time.

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TQQ | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 00:10:02

divide and conquer

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Filmpolice | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:21:57

WeThePizza just went down down!

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ZempOh | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:07:25

Someone in the deleted thread posted images that seemingly showed the metadata of the files. One of the dates from the metadata was 2013.

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coulditbe223 | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 19:09:34

Oh...Hm? but OP here claims metadata did not show anything?

If the pics are actually from 2013, does that imply that they could be fake (as in the OP from the other thread just ripped them from dark web and posted it to cause a ruckus?) or that they've been storing old images for whatever reasons (assuming the place he hacked is legit, and his story is legit) ? Do you follow what I mean?

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demos74dx | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:30:18

To be fair OP was freaking out a bit, I would be too!

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ZempOh | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:15:26

Yes I follow you. I know what the OP said. Here is a link to the comment chain where one of the metadata images was posted. https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dykv3/i_have_cracked_into_an_unidentified_pizza/da8dau0/?context=3&st=ivr0seuz&sh=86deb9f0

As of right now it looks like someone was just trolling this sub with pics they probably obtained from the darkweb. The OP of the deleted thread said he had contacted major news agencies and that the story would break tomorrow, but he wouldn't name what agencies he contacted.

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coulditbe223 | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:19:35

said he had contacted major news agencies and that the story would break tomorrow, but he wouldn't name what agencies he contacted.

Oh I didn't know that, I hope that is true...I also hope the OP was not lying to us or trying to derail us. If what he said is true, it is a bombshell and a half.

If it IS true, why would they have images stored on a website from 2013? Seems....stupid no? Risky?

I'm unsure what to believe. I know what my gut is telling me.

Also it's discomforting that the OP said he had about 30 mins to talk, and then deleted his thread. Somewhat lends to the legitimacy of the post.

You think whoever that OP was, he was lying?

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wahoosjw | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 19:23:59

The images were "advertisements" for services they charged fees for according to OP. I.e. Raping and murdering children so it's plausible they were that old. Also mods deleted the post I think

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Sugarlief | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 03:55:52

Yes, I agree. Sort of like a 'Menu', w/ pictures.

( 乂≖ଳ≖)blurghahlghulkojphurllqkahn my whole body just shivered~
I feel so helpless...not in that I'm suffering, but that I don 't know what to do to HELP stop these putrid beasts!

In my 40-some yrs of life, I have NEVER experienced this feeling, like so many agencies & authorities who I should be able to turn to, were untrustworthy, corrupt or treacherous to approach. Honestly, it's what used to be said about other countries when I was growing up.

Please Dear Jesus & Jebus, ~

Help us! Help Assange! Help WL! Help these innocent children! Help every single soul who is trying their best to dig up this rot & Help us EXCISE IT LIKE THE FUCKING CANCER THAT IT IS! Let the massive hole that is left behind be the drain that uncovers the rest of the hidden horrors & secrets these devious, fucking selfish, hate-filled, power-driven ~~people~~ M㊉NSŦERS 👶ᄽ⦕( `💥෴´💥)⦖ᄿ🍼 ☠ᄽ﴾☪🍽☪﴿ᄿ🍕 🚼ᄽ(`≽⚈☪🐽☪⚈⋞´)ᄿ🍼

Stay Safe, everyone~

/PW:Shield /Blessing of Protection /Cenarion Ward☆゚*ᄿ(´മ ‿മ`❀)

@moonsugarlily ♡

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ZempOh | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 19:25:02

The thread was deleted by the mods of this sub. In my opinion the OP of the deleted thread was lying. He said he had in his possession an encrypted client list and a decrypted price list. However, the only proof he provided was apparently linking to 10 CP images in a zip folder (I did not view the images or download them).

He did not disclose the non-cp files to us or provide us with any proof that the images were from the pizza site he purportedly hacked. So logic leads us to believe it is just some sick fuck trolling this sub. I guess we will know tomorrow for sure.

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coulditbe223 | 5 points | Nov 20 2016 19:29:48

Well, I suppose anything is possible. But I personally do find it hard to believe that the OP of that thread would go that far out of his way...but then again, we're on the internet.

Someone else said this, and I have to agree, I doubt news agencies will ever publish a story like this. Whether it be influence from the top preventing it, or the story being discredited by other groups, I feel like we will never see any of the proof if it does indeed exist.

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SarahAssange | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:37:03

I only verified two pictures and there was no metadata in them , Sorry I couldnt Look at the others more .

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wahoosjw | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:09:47

That seems irrelevant though right? Couldn't the CP/Pedophilia site have been that old.

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The_Watterboy | 31 points | Nov 20 2016 18:58:08

What a catch 22 - you can't legally share or view this garbage, but thats the only way that you can catch them and stop these people.

Personally, i dont want to see it and i wont be digging into that. Im not brave enough, smart enough, and i dont feel capable of protecting myself legally. But i think the sources of this stuff has to spread on 4chan and you need to keep this community in the loop so they can follow along

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Pocketweezer | 11 points | Nov 20 2016 19:01:22

Reddit users post on VOAT. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1423742

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greatwhite8 | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:57:08

Well ideally this is where the FBI would/should get involved but I can't see that happening.

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AnonIDIOTA | 12 points | Nov 20 2016 18:57:54

Are you serious about this right now..??? Can someone verify this, i mean if this is true did we just find a smoking gun?

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Naalu | 7 points | Nov 20 2016 19:12:27

aving the l

It is 100% true, I also saw the pics.

I dont know if you can also see the post now cos its been deleted but i can see it my messages, here is the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dykv3/i_have_cracked_into_an_unidentified_pizza/

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whatiswalnutsauce | 11 points | Nov 20 2016 20:06:09

Can I just say how disgusted I am

Like in the grand scheme of things, I am still going to research other things on pizzagate. But I just need to express how disgusted I am. Raping someone that young leads to internal damage that just... it's murder. It's so disgusting already but just... sorry, had to vent.

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Filmpolice | 10 points | Nov 20 2016 20:20:28

GUYS THE SITE IS DOWN. THE SITE IS DOWN!

WETHEPIZZA IS DOWN.

HOLY FUCK

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PrivatePyle | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:31:18

The google cache of the original is still available.

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debora111 | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 20:38:53

Others have probably already pointed this out, but the We Pizza website has just changed its homepage (now under maintenance, says "Coming Soon"). Why the fuck would they do this if they have nothing to hide?

I didn't believe the original OP until this happened. Now I have doubt.

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Zanting | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 20:40:56

Here is the archive of their hidden login page from November 27th, 2013, don't worry, nothing illegal can be seen here.

[ https://web.archive.org/web/20131127172305/http://wethepizza.com/login ]

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bwebber | 7 points | Nov 20 2016 20:02:17

The website he stole it from just shut down

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lionessjj | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 20:30:22

I really hope that if OP was legit, that they notified enough media/authorities to get a search warrant of these sickos. And I hope OP is safe.

If it was a lie to get the investigators on here arrested, guess what? That will only add fuel to the fire. WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WE CATCH THEM.

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nottheoretical | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 19:45:38

God, i even had to stop reading your list, i could never be someone to verify files like these, but holy fuck even if it has nothing to do with pizzagate can we bring back stoning for these people? Those poor little kids.

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agentf90 | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 21:30:28

http://mendelsohns.com/our-history/ <-- shows "under construction page" -- owners of WTP

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KrispyKlaw | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 00:51:46

Fucking hell. Get me off this rock. I despair.

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JusticiaChristos | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 01:21:49

Thank you. Please be careful. I'm praying for you.

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InvestigatePizzaGate | 3 points | Nov 21 2016 03:17:42

SPAM @h3h3productions twitter to INVESTIGATE #PizzaGate They have a mass audience on Youtube and can wake up many people #HELP

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yungcattdamon | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 18:53:14

where did you see this?

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SarahAssange | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 18:59:18

For Context : Someone claimed that he hacked 2gb of videos and pic of rape and child abuse as well as list of service ( rape , torture , murder ) with prices , and a client list , people asked for proof and he provided pictures

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Pocketweezer | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:00:18

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1423742

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just_cheesin | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:57:07

Someone claimed to have hacked into some pizza website and posted them a few hours ago.

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yungcattdamon | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:04:00

sounds like a huge deal, do we know what site?

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wahoosjw | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:05:02

http://wethepizza.com original OP claimed the site had been altered since he was there.

EDIT:link

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secretary-bird | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 19:33:29

Now the site is under maintenance: "Coming soon!"

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wahoosjw | 5 points | Nov 20 2016 19:44:56

This is pretty damning I think.

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PrivatePyle | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:27:01

The google cache is still available

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laviequotidienne | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:34:52

it has. I was there just a few mins ago

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AndOurAnswerIsAtHand | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:11:46

Im sorry but... how does that make up 2GB?

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coulditbe223 | 5 points | Nov 20 2016 20:14:12

The original hacker OP said that he had attained the 2GB, and posted the photos as proof of the claim. Obviously, this claim is disputed because he did not post the actual price lists, or other things he said he had. So it's hard to know anything for sure.

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Sugarlief | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 05:17:57

I apologize in advance if this doesn't answer your question~

In orig post, OP mentioned videos as well as pictures. I'm quite a derp abt comp stuff, & I know video takes up much more space, but in comparison to pics or other shit/text, I honestly don't know.

despite all of this disgusting horror, I hope I helped, even a little bit with this~ have a good night(。- _ -。❀)~

Below is a copy-pasta of orig;

"Hi, I am quickly posting this from a random open wifi so I will only will be available for questions about how to PROPERLY LEAK THIS only for 30 minutes for OPSEC reasons. Let's make it quick with the questions, long story short: I cracked into a suspicious "pizza/family center" and their netsec was shit. I made off with an encrypted list of their clients, and 2GB of unencrypted videos, which after glancing at the site's source code, there was a hidden login that allowed you to view "actives, services, and pricing" after logging in, the videos/photos were under the "activities" and "services" page. Not sure if they are aware of my intrusion, so not listing the site yet. So here is what I have, and how should I leak it?: 2GB of brutal videos and photos of little boys and girls being raped. ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING TO WATCH!!!!! An unencrypted spreadsheet of the pricing for each act (rape $10,000, minor torture $35,000, severe torture $100,000 and murder $250,000). Prices were different based on if the victim was a boy, girl, white, black, and age etc. And I have an encrypted list of all their clients. Okay guys, how should I leak this? Should I just post the child porn? Is that even fucking legal? I feel I should submit this to the FBI but I DO NOT TRUST THEM and I have a strong feeling wikileaks is compromised as well. And if I don't login within 24hours tell my family I loved them. FBI/CIA/NSA/LE/YOU EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS: I HAVE A DEADMAN SWITCH SETUP, IF I DON'T RESET MY SWITCH ONCE EVERY 12 HOURS IT ALL GETS RELEASED ON AN .ONION AND .I2P AND ALL THE LINKS GETS POSTED TO OVER 100 SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. AND I THINK SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS FACES ARE IN THE VIDEOS, SO DON'T TRY ANYTHING STUPID."

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Zanting | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:24:52

Here is the site as viewed on October 19th, 2016.

[ https://web.archive.org/web/20161019213943/http://wethepizza.com/ ]

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smurfmother | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 20:50:03

this guy types a lot like the original poster.. excessive exclamation points.. maybe this is fake but ill give benefit of doubt until 2 hours pass

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whitedeer27 | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 22:06:30

stay safe god be with you somehow we have to expose this

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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 02:30:54

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5dd00b/massive_podesta_pizzagate_info_push_to_frontpage/da3z4dk/

Is the FBI document you will find by clicking the above link real or not? Yes or no?


I think this is what some of you were looking for:

100 page 2013 FBI Maryland Court Document. 23 CP sites. Some folks on twitter think it may show links to certain people, and / or show FBI wrongdoing. Or it shows the FBI on the case. Either it is a red herring, or breadcrumbs.

Direct: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3217560/Dokument-om-p%C3%A6dofile-hjemmesider-fra-FBI.pdf

From: https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/797474986600632320

Released November 12 https://twitter.com/wikileaks

CONCLUSION.

  1. Based on the information identified above, information provided to me, and my experience and training, I have probable cause to believe there exists evidence, fruits, and instrumentalities of criminal activity related to the sexual exploitation of children on computers that access Websites 1-23, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 992251 and 2252A. 223. Based on the information described above, there is probable cause to believe that the information described in Attachment B constitutes evidence and instrumentalities of these crimes. 224. Based on the information described above, there is probable cause to believe that employing a NIT on Websites 1-23, to collect information described in Attachment B, will result in the FBI obtaining the evidence and instrumentalities of the child exploitation crimes described above.

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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 21 2016 02:34:57

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5dd00b/massive_podesta_pizzagate_info_push_to_frontpage/

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pizzathrowaway777 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 23:02:09

UPDATE

The level of incompetence in this "hack" is extremely concerning. I am not sure what OP was trying to accomplish, but without the private key this is useless

Please provide all of the data/files/html as evidence to MULTIPLE PDs (local or otherwise including the NYPD) before posting on the internet. You need to protect yourself, and establish a chain of evidence. Contacting an attorney is also very critical. If you do not have an attorney, get one asap.

If you do provide "evidence" on the web do it in an encrypted dump in bittorrent, all users should be careful and protect themselves, this could be a honeypot

No one cry wolf without validating OP's "evidence". Bringing false leads to the authorities is a surefire way to lose all credibility for this sub.

edit: Other users have pointed out, with good reason that local PD alone may be complicit and may not be the course of action. Simply linking on the internet is not how you bust these people though. You need to get as many eyes on the evidence as possible and make sure they understand you want to establish a chain of evidence and that your life is in danger.

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peyton_montana | 0 points | Nov 20 2016 21:47:34

Why don't you just deliver it to an NYPD detective. Why not see what happens? If nothing, then you move to the next person.

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SnugMeatSocks | -1 points | Nov 20 2016 23:11:20

This all seems like a bunch of bullshit. Lots of low post count/brand new users seem to be verifying this "hack"

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whitedeer27 | 6 points | Nov 21 2016 00:42:05

So Andrew Kline is the Lawyer of Alefantis, and this Mendelshon fucker for no reason while being DOJ & owning besta pizza? Yeah I buy that. It's all just coincidence, nothing to see here. Let's go back to a years-old bullshit psyop website and dig for nothing.

These bastards stink so bad you can smell them 5 states away. Look at the legal info around them. This is legit.

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agentf90 | -6 points | Nov 20 2016 18:55:11

You didn't save it??

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wahoosjw | 16 points | Nov 20 2016 18:58:55

Viewing or saving CP is not a good idea at all. No matter how secure you OpSec, having CP on a harddrive is hard evidence and you could be prosecuted for it. For all we know, the guy who posted it could be trying to inhibit our investigation by getting us to possess CP and tipping off authorities discrediting a lot of what we're doing and making us look bad.

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agentf90 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 18:59:40

well i assume you had a link to it. saving the link wouldn't be illegal.

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wahoosjw | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:04:07

Posting the link would be...

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de_throni | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:45:52

Could be seen as distribution. Sharing a link you know leads to CP.

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wahoosjw | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:56:35

It's a down website. Just says coming soon

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de_throni | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:08:29

I'm talking about the link to a zip file in the other thread. Smells like a honeypot.

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wahoosjw | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:22:28

Well yeah we have to remove links to cp, but removing discussion about a possible lead seems overboard

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de_throni | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:33:30

The link was still up a few minutes ago. I thought you guys wanted the link to the .zip-file that contains said images.

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Stratovaried | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:42:24

Apparently the file got removed from the tinyupload(?) already either way.

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dragnar1212 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:51:08

100% some one reported it to tinyupload

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19-80-4 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 20:45:50

Yep I deleted whatever I had. That shit's way too nuclear to keep even as evidence. I don't have the proper precautions in place to do that. I'm sure there's someone with the proof file out here, but I can tell you it exists because I verified the proof.

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dragnar1212 | 5 points | Nov 20 2016 20:47:27

no way in hell i would ever click that shit.....

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19-80-4 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 21:12:33

Yeah but I just need to know the truth. I'd be writing this off as a low level troll if I hadn't verified for myself.

There's still no proof that he isn't a dumb high-level troll, though.

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