NoShillsPls | 87 points | Nov 20 2016 18:21:52

The guy claiming to have hacked into a pizza place is a JTRIG shill. They have infiltrated this sub and are pretending to be normal users that care about pizzagate. Beware.

Don't click on any of the evidence they tell you is real. They are honeypots.

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DonaldTrumpIsAChomo | 28 points | Nov 20 2016 18:26:57

Well to be fair, what counter-evidence do you have to back up this claim?

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ArchonFall4All | 21 points | Nov 20 2016 20:11:04

Exactly. I think it's clear who the real shill is in this instance. This community is starting to make some serious progress, and these sorts of attacks will only increase. Here are a few of the tactics they will use:

  1. They will develop and exploit disagreements within the community to divide us
  2. They will sow a lot of doubt by planting disinformation and making us question what is real and what isn't
  3. They will use scare tactics to discourage us from digging deeper
  4. They will plant/exploit flimsy evidence that the media can use to discredit the investigation
  5. They will vote-brigade to manipulate opinion and what is visible on the front page.

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sheik_yerbouti_jr | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 20:29:11

Exactly. I think it's clear who the real shill is in this instance.

And that's exactly the point. It gets you away from the real issues.

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ArchonFall4All | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 20:38:14

Agreed, but I felt the need to comment given the upvotes that this thread is receiving

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The_Watterboy | 13 points | Nov 20 2016 18:29:39

No harm done either way really - it takes two seconds to comment on a thread, and if nothing comes from it then it is literally no big deal whatsoever. People are digging independently one way or another. One bullshit claim isnt going to change anything. This movement stops for no one

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AnonIDIOTA | 13 points | Nov 20 2016 19:00:55

UHM apparently that guy is onto something...multiple people are reporting CP.

Not to mention you're a new user and this was your first and only post.... I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS ISN"T LOOKING GOOD

Edit - someone mentioned its CP but older images?

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p_za | 11 points | Nov 20 2016 18:29:06

where did the thread go? wtf

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dragnar1212 | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 18:35:07

removed sins Poster removed all his comments

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p_za | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:35:41

looks like a mod deleted it on the live logs...

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dragnar1212 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 18:55:28

yea after the posted removed his posts

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Pocketweezer | 6 points | Nov 20 2016 18:35:51

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1423742

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RainforestRabbit | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:36:19

http://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dykv3/i_have_cracked_into_an_unidentified_pizza/

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_gounT | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:47:04

http://imgur.com/a/6DcAK

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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 18:35:17

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_gounT | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 18:36:42

I screenshooted everything. Gonna upload the pics in a couple of minutes (censoring the link OFC)

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Sister_Lauren | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 18:46:47

It is still there.

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yungcattdamon | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 19:11:32

'honeypots' is an extremely overused term meant to scare us from continuing to do our work, they can get our IP address' a number of ways. Not denying this pizza site hack is off but simply wanted to call you out on that lol

edit: obviously downloading CP is a honeypot where they can literally raid your home then, but the IP address argument is shill based

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Lunnes | 8 points | Nov 20 2016 18:27:39

We can't know for sure. It could be fake, it could be real. We have no proof one way or the other

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Sister_Lauren | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 18:47:51

I think it is real. We will find out tomorrow, or not. How good is the NSA at crushing a story?

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Warning-Derailment | 7 points | Nov 20 2016 18:36:35

Ugh half the subreddit is shills and the other half investigators and we can't tell the two apart.

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Sister_Lauren | 9 points | Nov 20 2016 18:55:29

The truth will out.

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Sister_Lauren | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 18:32:34

Why would a British Intelligence agency want to do that? You are going to have to explain your assertion and back it up with some evidence before I'm going to believe it.

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stereoblind | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:25:44

Mainly because MI6, GCHQ, NSA, CIA, etc are all cut from the same cloth. Our NSA and the British GCHQ openly trade info on each other's citizens and sell that info to ad agencies worldwide. They all work together. The question you ask: "Why would a British Intelligence agency want to do that?"- is the question they want you to ask. They want it to seem like that makes no sense and that's how they win/get you.

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Sister_Lauren | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 22:21:18

Apparently this particular small chain of pizza joints (2) is in the heart of our domestic terrorism network. So the question is, why would these spy organizations what to expose one of their own?

If the title is correct, then it would have to be seen as a British attack on the US, sort of like the BP gulf oil spill. Where is the evidence to support it? I sure haven't seen any. That is really sloppy reporting.

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[deleted] | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 18:36:46

I took screen shots of all of his posts if needed.

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stopcensoringpizzag8 | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 19:33:32

The wethepizza.com website he referred as how he found the CP is DOWN. Did anyone archive the site's content?

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CuriouslyDriven | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:41:03

https://web.archive.org/web/20140831173420/http://wethepizza.com/

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stopcensoringpizzag8 | 2 points | Nov 20 2016 19:43:08

Thank you. It's interesting to me that their website has been archived numerous times over the past years.

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ShitLordofCastamere | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 23:57:40

profile made just today

this is your only post

Thanks for Correcting The Record for us you shill.

I hope you know you are defending a degenerate paedophile. Unironically kill yourself

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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 18:27:17

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The_Watterboy | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:30:43

Can't be a honey pot if he was the one claiming to have the info. Wouldn't it be a honeypot if he was asking people to send illegal stuff to him? At worst, I think its just a guy making up a story.

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Sister_Lauren | 3 points | Nov 20 2016 18:54:42

Or an attempt at entrapment, click on the porn and get arrested. Then you are no longer going to be snooping on the internet.

What other reason could there be for a fake story with real porn? What is the possible motive?

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The_Watterboy | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:03:29

He didn't post any though - he was asking how to best handle the dissemination of what he found to protect himself and to safeguard the community. If you accidentally come across illegal pornography on the internet, you can report to your local authorities and you should be OK.

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Sister_Lauren | 4 points | Nov 20 2016 19:15:09

Not true, he posted a link, folks checked it out and verified that it was real child porn and very horrible.

Naturally our hosts here removed it, as they should. This is all still very much up in the air as to what it is.

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The_Watterboy | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 19:18:56

Hmm he must have done that much later after he made that thread. I don't recall seeing any links. I'm glad I didn't

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Zanting | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 21:56:35

Honeypot which damages a real rather famous person?

Nope.

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pizzathrowaway777 | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 23:04:37

UPDATE

The level of incompetence in this "hack" is extremely concerning. I am not sure what the original OP was trying to accomplish, but without the private key this is useless.

The original OP should provide all of the data/files/html as evidence to MULTIPLE PDs (local or otherwise including the NYPD) before posting on the internet. You need to protect yourself, and establish a chain of evidence. Contacting an attorney is also very critical. If you do not have an attorney, get one asap.

If you do provide "evidence" on the web do it in an encrypted dump in bittorrent, all users should be careful and protect themselves, this could be a honeypot

No one cry wolf without validating the original OP's "evidence". Bringing false leads to the authorities is a surefire way to lose all credibility for this sub.

edit: Other users have pointed out, with good reason that local PD alone may be complicit and may not be the course of action. Simply linking on the internet is not how you bust these people though. You need to get as many eyes on the evidence as possible and make sure they understand you want to establish a chain of evidence and that your life is in danger.

edit2: added request for encrypted bittorrent dump, and piece about false reporting to authorities

edit3: contact attorney

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grabembytheyounowut | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 02:19:50

As far as we know you are part of the controlled opposition. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. But with a subject as taboo as this you may as well be part of the JTRIG operation.

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debora111 | 1 points | Nov 21 2016 09:26:34

Next time there is such a hoax/honeypot expect it to be less blatantly weak. Keep in mind people whoever did this went through the trouble of procuring not only CP but child snuff pictures (torture). This suggests a very determined OP.

This experience needs to make our investigation stronger, more resilient to disinformation.

Personally this kind of blatant and professional attempts at disinformation makes me only more angry and determined!

Here is what we need to look for next time this happens

https://np.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5e0kox/how_could_a_pizzagate_hacker_prove_shes_not_full/

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