EyeCrush | 73 points | Nov 18 2016 04:25:51

They have copies of these files.

The NYPD saw this coming from miles away, you can absolutely bet on it. These people aren't stupid, and they KNEW they had to back this stuff up when they saw the severity of the contents.

They knew there would be relentless attempts at a cover up, but no matter.

wildonrio | 25 points | Nov 18 2016 04:53:37

Would love a source, to help me sleep at night that we'll someday get to see what was on that laptop. Do you have a reliable one stating that they copied it and the FBI didn't get to it too?

EyeCrush | 38 points | Nov 18 2016 04:56:53

My source is the understanding that these people are much more in the know than us, and have various connections that we just don't have. Other departments around the country, the intelligence agencies, military, people like that. Trump is VERY close with many Generals in our military. They know what is going on, and right now is the big push to take back the country it looks like.

The media has conditioned us to not make connections, and if we did, told us that the connections we made were not good enough. That is obviously a lie. The media has attempted to kill all critical thinking throughout the years. They were fine when they first started out more or less, but other parties with a lot of money slowly infiltrated them, as well as the government.

They're all working behind the scenes to not only oust the corruption within their own ranks, but they are coordinating for a larger scale takedown of the corruption that has plagued this country for 3 decades. The majority of humans are intelligent.

The perpetuation that everyone was stupid was just another tool to push a divide between people with differing opinions. This grew into a narrative that everyone was stupid because of their knowledge, not opinion. That is extremely dangerous, as it hinders progress in the form of hindering the spread of factual knowledge. True factual knowledge knows no bias. Military knows it, that's the only reason they can operate at all.

By creating this narrative, they hinder progress by not allowing people to work together. The stuff we could accomplish with today's levels of technology when working together? It would be a new age of tech progress.

They're not going to publicly announce their plans or what they will do until immediately before they take action.

Hope I helped put you at ease a little by expanding on my thoughts.

Ninjakick666 | 58 points | Nov 18 2016 05:27:50

I posted this on /r/conspiracy, but I think it could be useful here as well... a lot of people think this situation is hopeless... they need to know everything is gonna be fine... better than fine.

The FBI has always existed in a world where a file could be shredded, or evidence could be lost. The chain of command prevented any agent from really knowing too much about the big picture... your case could be handed off to "someone else" and that would be the end of it. The agents only really communicated with their superiors and a few people in the office.

Now we live in a world where instead of being shredded that same file can be instantly duplicated a million times and flung across the entire globe in a split second... agents can communicate and coordinate without relying upon the old chain of command... a single pipeline of info is easy to cut off... but a web of information shared can let the good ones piece together the whole thing without tipping off the few corrupt ones in control.

A suspicious suicide in a local newspaper would hit a readership of 3,000 and be lining the birdcage the next day... lost forever. Now it is preserved online and shared with anyone interested to look at it. They got away with this type of shit for so long by hiding each puzzle piece as it came into play. Now is the first time in history that we can all collectively gather enough pieces of the puzzle so we can put together the big picture. Sure there are a few pieces missing here and there... but enough of it is intact that you can step back and soak it all in.

I honestly believe we are witnessing something major here... something beautiful... I don't want people feeling scared or angry... I want them to kick back and enjoy the show, we are about to witness history in the making... The good people in the FBI have been working 100 times harder than us at /r/conspiracy & /r/wikileaks & /r/pizzagate have been... trying to unravel these mind boggling mysteries... only they have been training all their lives for this and they have tools and powerful connections at their disposal way beyond Google and Safari... and look at what we all have done with just those.

The FBI does have a shady history, but that is all about to change... the good guys are sick of looking like dirtbags because of the greed of a minority in power. These men risk their lives to do what is right... some fat fucker behind a desk can't stop them anymore.

EyeCrush | 20 points | Nov 18 2016 05:43:48

You totally get it. We are experiencing a shift of power. It is happening all over the world, the US isn't even the first one to begin shifting. Brexit, South Korea, France soon, and others are all part of this movement.

I heard that this can be attributed to pendulum theory, which is a political theory that when government goes too far left, the pubic will correct this in the most extreme manner. By that I mean; extremely effective. The changes will happen QUICK once Trump takes office.

The most powerful country in the world going through this shift means that the rest of the world is quickly going to follow suit. It is a very pivotal point, and indicates a sort of critical mass being reached.

Ninjakick666 | 12 points | Nov 18 2016 06:25:27

Exactly... all the planets have aligned... the conditions are finally perfect for change to happen... real change. I dunno where all this money they steal is going... but I feel like a lot of it is coming back to the ones that deserve it. People will make sure this type of widespread bullshit won't happen again for a couple of centuries.

EyeCrush | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 06:54:38

I dunno where all this money they steal is going...

Child trafficking, weapons, drugs, and creating the conditions for all those things to proliferate. As well as kickbacks to friends and lobbyists, as well as foreign governments.

Break through the cognitive dissonance with this image:

https://i.redd.it/gg7r04ttkaxx.jpg

Ninjakick666 | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 07:00:46

A lot of those assets are soon to be forfeited back to the US government. Restitution payments for their crimes.

edit - Dammit you edited yours and now it sounds like I was saying that we'd get to divvy up the kiddies.

Whoa... now that makes me think... there is gonna have to be a lot of serious effort spent to get these "orphans" to the point where they even have a remote hope of living a normal adult life... especially if they've been brainwashed. I logiced myself into a huge bummer there... just another day in the rabbithole.

EyeCrush | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 07:14:42

Sorry haha, more always comes to me when writing these things..

Good points, and yeah... it is all a bummer. But! If we can stop it from happening, that's really all we can do, and that is still incredibly amazing because it will save many lives.

Ninjakick666 | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 07:17:15

Like... at least a million kids a year saved in America alone? Gotta yank that bandaid off.

RAPIN_BILLY | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 08:48:47

god that picture is weird. it's so random too. i want to think it's just an unfortunate still, but his hand is still where it is. and in simple body language... i actually just deleted my last sentence, as i look at it, it's increasingly unsettling. i really can't find the words to match my emotions.

whoever began circulating that picture is a skilled persuader. it managed to create a visceral response in me, and i'm not the type to have that.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 04:05:05

I felt exactly the same way when I saw it, so I knew it was probably important to spread. The body language is just too obvious to ignore. I also looked at it in photoshop, nothing looks out of the ordinary. This image is legit.

0--_ | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 08:14:09

What kind of watch is that?

WingGoddessx | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 20:52:43

That picture is Highly Disturbing! (-___-) Obama with the little asian girl on his lap.. Im surprised this is not circulating on the internet? That right there would raise eyebrows too! It just looks wrong on so many levels!

EyeCrush | 2 points | Nov 19 2016 01:53:16

The image was scrubbed from the internet. It only resurfaced again within the last couple weeks. Can't find it anywhere but these circles; however we need to spread it now.

I showed a friend at work. Holy shit he's SO far stuck in his own world that he didn't see anything wrong. I was hoping to actually introduce him to the various links and facts regarding Obama and his ties to these people, but in his mind, as long as he disproves one of my points, he doesn't have to look into anything else. He's actually never disproven many of my points though.

Then he sends me those two images of Trump and Ivanka. Sure they're slightly suggestive, but it's his daughter.

Then he's like Trump said "If I wasn't married, I would be dating her."

Then I corrected him: "I'd probably be dating Ivanka if she wasn't my daughter." <-- that's the correct quote. He's proud of his daughter.

I think he automatically assumes I am always wrong and formulates his arguments with that bias. He's going to have such a rude awakening soon. I think he sees the writing on the wall, but is very stuck in his worldview. He won't even inform himself about the wikileaks.

At this point, anybody who hasn't looked in the wikileaks has no idea how this country is run.

WingGoddessx | 2 points | Nov 19 2016 15:48:57

Thank you for your response! It's so true about what you said RE: your co-worker as an example. I think most, not all, are like that. Some are just too lazy to do the research, and some basically chose to be ignorant. I believe to be Informed, you gotta be involved. But, yeah.. the writing is definitely on the wall.

And about that picture? I cringe while looking at it! Its too intimate.. not natural at all! I have reposted it in Twitter and on FB. (Not that I trust either of those because of who they are run by). Like you said, some people are stuck in their worldviews and can't or won't bring themselves to see the truth. But hopefully people like yourself and others who continue to share factual information will reach others who are still asleep, and open their eyes to whats really going on.

The Conspiracy Theorists =) have been vindicated in reguards to current government and where the US and the World was headed if HRC was chosen President. Thanks to Assange and Wikileaks, the Whistleblowers, and even those who have died to expose the truth to the people. We were given the truth to change the outcome! =)

Keep up the fight my friend, and I hope you and yours have an amazing weekend!

DinosBiggestFan | -1 points | Nov 18 2016 07:45:13

the pubic will correct this in the most extreme manner.

Not sure if shot at Trump supporters is accidental or deliberate >={

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 17:59:54

You need to work on your reading comprehension, and also note that I am a regular poster at The_Donald.

whitedeer27 | 4 points | Nov 18 2016 06:44:04

I can't tell you how much I hope you're right.

Ninjakick666 | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 06:55:36

What is the only way to take down a powerful secret society? With an even bigger more powerful more secretive society... That is what the good men and women of the FBI/CIA/DOJ/PDs have all been working towards for a very long time... Only once their job is finally done and there is no more reason for secrecy will the rest of us be initiated to the club.

Ohmz27 | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 14:26:55

I'm sure they know this already to some degree, but if that's the way things pan out, they'll truly be seen as the good guys by ordinary salt-of-the-earth people across the globe. I realllllly hope the trash gets cleared up!

kurt1004 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 19:14:01

We are crowd sourcing the power of the human mind. The greatest super computer ever and we have billions of them. We just need a good way to put together the important stuff. That would be an amazing accomplishment.

OldShepthePirate | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 16:16:45

Mitt for sec State?!? This alone lends me to believe you outside of My Happy Space. I've been HOPING this is being slow played since FBI Anon taught us. In my happy conspiracy theory, Mitt is being Vetted because he is A-Qualified, and B-Not Compromised by Pizzagate. Look for all of the Cabinet choices to be 'odd' picks or political outsiders. I reckon the list of Non-Pedos to pick from is limited.

wildonrio | -1 points | Nov 18 2016 04:58:33

Ah so you just believe they made a copy. Great.

EyeCrush | 16 points | Nov 18 2016 05:06:33

You're still falling into the trap. The MSM has conditioned you to believe that you cannot make these connections based on connecting facts, yourself.

Trump knows what Hillary is guilty of. Fact. Trump knows many generals and has spoken with them often. Fact.

There is only one conclusion that one can come to when knowing these facts. Also, the military isn't stupid. They saw the wikileaks too, as well as other inside information that you will never know exists until this story is blown wide open.

If you have any issues with the logic I used to come to this conclusion, you are welcome to refute it.

Ohmz27 | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 14:31:11

I really hope when the case is blown wide open, the whole ring crumbles, with even foreign people implicated being hit - at least by having their name dragged through the dirt via hard evidence of thier guilt, and I really hope MSM is bent and twisted in favor of the good guys.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 04:06:29

It won't happen all at once because society would basically crumble, but it is going to be a concerted effort over the next couple of years, I believe.

subnu | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 05:33:07

There is no universe that I can think of where there weren't multiple copies made of that laptop. The data on that laptop was world-changing, and everybody on the inside knows it.

EyeCrush | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 06:56:19

Exactly. Making backups of something is ridiculously simple.

olikdw | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 15:00:28

I have a source at NYPD that confirmed they made copies. I know that's just my word but maybe it'll help.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 04:08:45

Eric Prince, former Navy Seal also said that the rumors around the NYPD are legit.

I do believe you though. It just isn't a stretch for me to believe that someone like yourself, who knows people in the NYPD, would've come here - because the NYPD is watching all this as well.

yehyehwut | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 12:19:44

Alex Jones said it in the video where he cries about the Podesta email farm / pool party thing. That's all I got.

plagr | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 12:36:51

Any it guy with any infosec would have backed that shit up into evidence as well as the actual physical copy.

pby1000 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 16:52:32

Agreed.

ManderinDuck | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 20:09:23

The FBI could have confiscated the back ups as well.

However, what I imagine is that there is information that is much more damaging than the pedo "ring". As what is behind the pedo ring. Possibly SAP .

EyeCrush | 2 points | Nov 19 2016 18:01:56

The FBI could have confiscated the back ups as well.

Nope, the backups are off the record.

Also, there is nothing more damaging than the Pedo ring. If we actually took down everyone involved in the pedo ring, society would crumble. That's how entrenched this shit is in the world of the elites.

ManderinDuck | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:12:59

Also, there is nothing more damaging than the Pedo ring. If we actually took down everyone involved in the pedo ring, society would crumble. That's how entrenched this shit is in the world

How do you know backups are off the record? I want them to be.

EyeCrush | 2 points | Nov 19 2016 18:18:08

Because the NYPD aren't stupid, the information is just THAT important, and backups are stupid easy to make.

crashing_this_thread | 1 points | Nov 20 2016 18:17:52

I reckon the NYPD isn't run by retarded toddlers.

av8r-- | 21 points | Nov 18 2016 04:08:14

Could taking the evidence away from the NYPD have anything to do with how Presidential pardons work. It is my understanding that a Presidential pardon is good for federal offenses only. So even if Obama issued pardons, those receiving the pardons would still be subject to state charges. By taking Weiner's laptop, they prevent the state from being able to prosecute based on the evidence on the laptop. So a pardon plus lack of the laptop would let them walk free at both the federal and state level.

Also, am I correct thinking the Presidential pardon applies only to people. If so, using that wonderful asset forfeiture law (which I despise), law enforcement entities could still go after their assets and those of the foundation since forfeiture laws are allowed to assume property is guilty until proven innocent.

decrypt512 | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 05:31:43

Can't pardon until indictment.

IncreasinglyAlarmed | 8 points | Nov 18 2016 05:41:47

Not true, you can Pardon before even charged.

decrypt512 | 8 points | Nov 18 2016 05:57:54

I stand corrected. My bad.

trowdit | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 05:45:20

I see someone's never heard of ex parte Garland

PatrioticDeplo | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 05:17:04

Maybe he needs to know which offenses to pardon?

IncreasinglyAlarmed | 4 points | Nov 18 2016 05:42:12

You don't have to be specific, you can literally write a blank check

jonmitz | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 16:09:53

This isn't true.

The president can only pardon those convicted of a federal crime. Please use google and don't spread misinformation :/

IncreasinglyAlarmed | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 18:52:47

But he doesn't have to specify WHICH federal crime. Which was my point..

edit: also he can grant clemency which is effectively a pardon to anyone for any crime.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:03:21

It's still an admission of guilt, which would destroy their narrative.

party1981 | 15 points | Nov 18 2016 06:46:39

To paraphrase FBIanon:

"If Trump is elected, I am confident that she will go to prison."

Ninjakick666 | 9 points | Nov 18 2016 07:13:48

We could go with anon... but I'd be fine with just trusting Trump himself... especially convincing with a little meme magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z4Humb7ARc

party1981 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 17:27:08

Yes, this is exactly right!

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:03:55

Just look at Trump's AG pick.

Soros' and his ilk are going down.

Ninjakick666 | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:58:25

You, me and /u/TeslasMuse gotta be the only ones confident enough about this revolution to talk about it... Feels good man.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 19:01:48

My friend was trying to tell me that I was the one with blinders on.

Holy shit man, I just realized how far they project in every situation when their beliefs are challenged. That's right, their beliefs.... because they certainly aren't using fact based knowledge.

Ninjakick666 | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 19:09:38

I'm only prepared to accept it because I spent my entire life ignoring TV, religion and politics... until wikileaks. I went into it totally objective... tabula rasa... protected by adblockers, FB purity and torrenting.

EyeCrush | 11 points | Nov 18 2016 07:10:27

'WND has also confirmed'

'The girl told Buzzfeed News that Comey’s decision “upset” her'

THIS IS FAKE NEWS.

Congress pressing to obtain copies of the 650,000 emails

We already KNOW that congress has copies. CONFIRMED.

WND IS A FAKE NEWS SITE. Jerome R. Corsi has been compromised.

mertical | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 07:59:04

Are you reading the same article? It's right there in the first few paragraphs.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 03:59:52

Why are you ignoring the other points I made?

Edited out other part, you are right, the title is in the article.

mertical | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 08:54:48

I don't understand the other points you made actually.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:04:54

1.) We already know congress has copies of the emails. Why isn't that mentioned in the article?

2.) Anytime you see 'News Site X Has Confirmed' with no other sources, it is fake news. Also, any site that references Buzzfeed in its articles is fake news as well.

RAPIN_BILLY | 8 points | Nov 18 2016 08:35:56

disinfo. this entire sub is disinfo. it makes me mad to have become involved in this. for every real post from someone who cares about children and dismantling the pedophilia rings within the elite class... there are 10 posts to discourage and misdirect. and another 10 to directly attack the victims of ritual sexual abuse. cathy o'brien's entire life is a shining example. hillary clinton's lifelong commitment to silencing the victims of sexual abuse is another.

watching the disinfo on this sub is a fucking farce. it's so easy to tell who's responding to themselves to create a corroborating narrative. i'm full on done with this, reddit is good for nothing other than memes and trolling liberal weirdos. trump won, we good.

mertical | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 09:09:44

You may not actually be one, but you're the one seeming like the troll here.

Go ahead and leave. Meanwhile many of us are working together in the chatroom.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:06:31

The issue is that you didn't even fact check the article, which is now REQUIRED unless you want this subreddit to lose ALL credibility.

SinSkin | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 03:15:47

FOIA?

pby1000 | 16 points | Nov 18 2016 03:23:20

Sure! That will take approximately 75,000 years, but we will get right on it.

Seriously, though, if the FBI tries to cover this up, then Comey should be indicted.

SinSkin | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 03:26:49

RICO?

pby1000 | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 03:31:21

Yes! It would be nice to see these people taken down by RICO.

I like the way you think.

ctrl_all_del | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 21:07:06

SUAVE?

pby1000 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 22:38:45

I don't think I want to see people get taken down by him. LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_f3kJOX_8

tudda | 4 points | Nov 18 2016 09:18:58

No it won't. You must not be aware of what happened the first week of November. The FBI released their FOIA documents so people would know the rules. I could be wrong, but what I gathered was.. if 3 people make the same FOIA request they have to release it without notifying their superiors. and it was happening the same day. If there's something you want to get from them, just get a few people to request it with you.

pby1000 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 22:43:17

Yes, I remember that. My interpretation was that is was a mini revolt within the FBI. Are you saying this will be the standard procedure from now on? If so, I really hope you are right. We need people in the FBI, CIA, and NSA to start leaking so we can effectuate the change that needs to happen.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 04:11:27

Yeah, hope they leak more information.

EyeCrush | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 18:05:47

if 3 people make the same FOIA request they have to release it without notifying their superiors.

You are 100% correct. It's why we got a flood of information during the weeks leading up to election.

islandofdelight | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 11:27:47

Could this be because the FBI is going after a bigger case?

mertical | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 11:57:15

If you look back at what happened during the Franklin scandal, probably not...

joshua_lovekittens | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 12:53:11

The American people, and Trump, haven't won a damn thing if this isn't pursued.

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