Filmpolice | 2458 points
Cathy O'Brien claimed that politicians performed rituals on her, raped her, and sliced her vagina with razor blades when she was a child. A gynecologist checked her vagina to see if she was telling the truth. CONFIRMED: she was really sliced up in a ritualistic pattern. [Video proof]
For over two decades, Cathy O'Brien has claimed that politicians, including Hillary Clinton, sexually abused her as a child, and mutilated her in traumatizing rituals. People thought she was crazy, though her story has never changed. You can read her description of what it was like when Hillary Clinton forced her to perform oral sex. Here it is in detail: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5deqjr/firsthand_account_of_what_hillary_clinton_did_to/
In that same thread, a commenter dug up an old video where a gynecologist checks Cathy's vagina to see if she's telling the truth. Sure enough, the exam revealed multiple lacerations and cuts on Cathy's genitals, and the video shows EVERYTHING, close up. (You have been warned.)
Start around the 9 minute mark: https://youtu.be/Laon3_ob54A
It can no longer be denied that Cathy's genitals were sliced ritualistically.
Now we are forced to choose the most plausible explanation:
Either (1) Cathy is lying and sliced up her own vagina several times, slowly, in a ritualistic way, with razor blades;
or
(2) Cathy is telling the truth and someone sliced her vagina in a ritual.
By all reasonable standards, (2) is the best explanation of the available data. We have clear evidence that Cathy was part of a ritual whose participants tortured her.
Adding to this, we have multiple, independent attestation that the Clintons are involved in child sex trafficking as well as the occult, along with all of the evidence we have uncovered in recent weeks, along with Cathy's own testimony (and she has proven herself to be truthful).
Either all of these people are crazy and lying and we are all imagining things and a child sliced her own vagina,
OR
the Clintons and their associates are indeed involved in child ritual abuse and trafficking.
HOW MUCH more is it going to take for these people to be brought to justice?
Do they need to slaughter a child on live TV?
(Even then, I'm sure their throngs would say it's "just art.")
grlldcheese87 | 286 points
Isn't it convenient when your victims are ritually drugged and abused into mental states that discredit them?
Maybe we should start cross referencing public admissions of dissociative identity disorder with personal connections to politicians.
We need victims to come forward for this shit to go anywhere.
MirrorMirrorRTJ | 144 points
There actually are a fair amount of victims coming forward. Problem is what you first said.
We need 'famous' victims basically.
grlldcheese87 | 49 points
Frodo saved middle earth from the dark lord.
Maybe Elijah will help.
My favorite roles of his:
Murderous cannibal protected by the church/gov.
Mindfucked stoner with invisible dog friend.
Just saying.
Special_Prosecutor | 54 points
Perhaps some actors are particularly good at acting because they have dissociative personality disorder.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/antony-kidman-dies-amidst-child-abuse-allegations,6918
grlldcheese87 | 42 points
I studied acting to better understand deception dynamics(academically). I agree 100%.
Method is basically mind controlling yourself and creating a dissociated identity.
PizzagateConspiracy | 9 points
Currently on the last season of mindfucked stoner with invisible dog friend and only have like three episodes left. The show really stopped being funny and started being strangely intriguing.
grlldcheese87 | 1 points
Yeah it definitely went off the rails in season 2 and it took years for me to go back and finish it.
But the first season was probably my favorite series ever. And the last is still pretttty hard to turn off. Definitely feels like some dissociative identity problems.
lovedisco | 2 points
I'd laugh if Elijah himself posted this
grlldcheese87 | 2 points
Sorry. Not Elijah.
I would have punched Samwise in the face so many times throughout those movies.
TheSunTheMoonNStars | 43 points
The Coreys were abused - but he won't name names yet- maybe he will?
TheSilentHedges | 27 points
Rhymes with Warvey Heinstein.
thisfarandnofurther | 3 points
Warvey Heinstein
For those as stupid as I am, switch the two first letters. I had never heard of this person...
brxn | 14 points
This reminds me of the 911 witnesses video.. where it shows you need to ignore 1000's of eyewitness accounts of bombs and explosions in order to believe the official story of zero bombs.. told by a set of very few witnesses.
crashing_this_thread | 5 points
How can someone rise to fame after experiencing this shit.
thisfarandnofurther | 1 points
By putting it into a box locked in your brain and forgetting it exists. It comes out in your behaviour but you can manage to be functioning.
Sister_Lauren | 2 points
No, we need to start listening to and believing the people who are already coming forward. You shouldn't have to be famous or good looking to be believable. That is ridiculous. All the victims deserve to be listened to and heard.
MirrorMirrorRTJ | 1 points
I do believe them and I agree. But Average Joe is gonna brush them off as nut jobs because it's too far outside their world view. That is until someone 'credible' in there eyes says it.
alaskanorth | 98 points
It's all true...I am a surviver of this kind of abuse...I have scars on my hands arms and fingers ( similar to pedesta scars...they look like scalpel cuts...very old and clearly there) ....I only have snippets of memories... but I do have a very clear memory of a face..a face of a man who picked me up in a car when I was 12 years old....an unforgettable face whose smile I will never forget.and his cheshere cat grin of a man who had snared his canary ...google General Michael Aquino ....look at that face that smile...I'll never forget the feeling I had when I got in the car with him...Instant dissociation and the thought Oh my God I am going to be killed....Many years later that one memory that my soul let me remember helped me to come out of denial and start to heal from the trauma of my childhood...An ongoing process....We need to collectively now come out of denial so that we can stop this together and start the healing...It has to stop...It starts with us accepting the truth that yes evil really is that evil....and It can only thrive as long as we stay in denial and let the darkness prevail....I'm not sure what we can do other then speak the truth and keep working to expose it....
C3PHO3 | 24 points
Wow, I'm so fucking sorry you had to experience that. Are things better? What do you remember, if you don't mind me asking?
whatsreallygoingon | 9 points
He is a true monster! I don't know how we can bring out and protect victims like you, for telling your story; but if possible, I hope it happens!
apb1979a | 7 points
I have scars on my hands arms and fingers
gonna need some verification on that one. especially from a two month old account
Beneficial1 | 1 points
Sometimes you just have to be able to read a person's energy encoded in their post to know that they are being genuine. It's an empathic sense.
yastru | 2 points
Nah, you're just a idiot. No biggie smalls
Beneficial1 | 1 points
Oh you are that guy who goes around calling people idiots. Get a life, loser.
GetOutOfBox | 1 points
You know, it's hard to be sure about posts like this on the internet... so many trolls and fakes... but I just wanted to say that if this is true I have the utmost respect for you having the bravery to share your horrific experiences. Lets hope together that the light is finally shone on these savages in this coming year, and if not, well thousands of people everywhere have become aware. That's a huge difference and at this point I'd hazard to say irreversible damage to their cover.
Haplo781 | 42 points
Unfortunately, the SRA angle is, in fact, far too easy to discredit.
While true, we should keep it on the DL when talking to normies. Disinfo agents like David Icke have been very successful at leaking facts mixed with unbelievable bullshit (THE QUEEN IS A REPTILOID!) so that any exposé of actual occult activity will be met with instant skepticism.
WEH HAVE TO MAKE AN AIRTIGHT CASE FOR THE PEDO RING FIRST . Then and only then can even a whisper of occultism/Satanism go to the press.
grlldcheese87 | 34 points
Meh. Spirit cooking was huge.
I know what you mean and you're not a concern troll. But you have to remember conspiracy theories stick around for a reason. Ppl love crazy. We need enough participation to reach a level of compiled evidence. What they say about us along the way doesn't matter that much.
SRA gives them ammunition to discredit us. Is it enough? I kinda don't think so.
whitedeer27 | 13 points
Look up tavistock, and JOE LEWIS who is into modern artist FRANCIS BACON - THAT SHIT IS EVIL.
Fuck going to go be sick.
http://archive.is/PkOg8
revealingstormtear | 5 points
I was just thinking about a book that a friend of mine needed for her sexology degree which has been banned in the US. It's called "The Sexual Life of Children" and is a study of sexual development through childhood. Her program covered weird sexual proclivities including "The Dictionary of Unusual Sex Practices" as well as paedophilia.
I was thinking that SLoC might help identify the ages at which ritual abuse would be most effective, letting us narrow the list of potential victims or missing persons.
Just a thought if someone is able to procure a copy of that book in PDF form or something.
Sister_Lauren | 3 points
They need to be protected before they can come forward. I had a friend who told me about her experience. Lucky for me she did, or they would have gotten me. Her warning save my life.
Would I encourage her to come forward with her story? Never! Not in a million years. She already came forward, she told me about it and I believe her. I think that is enough. I will be the activist for both of us.
grlldcheese87 | 1 points
What can we do?
What will it take?
And your name reminds me of a story i heard. Renegade nuns infiltrating sex traffickers.
Maybe that's a reasonable group to reach out to.
FJHUAI | 1 points
Bro, if you want to see one of these people for yourself, search for "Gabriel croft" "government sex slave" and "prosody context"
He goes by those three terms, but in one of his videos he calls himself "Gabriel Croft, Government sex slave".
He is clearly schizophrenic at this point. Can someone please she'd some light into this guy's videos on youtube?
tchollinginthedeep | 1 points
Or it's the other way round and crazy people are the first to make shit up. This woman doesn't seems trustworthy at all.
faithle55 | 217 points
By all reasonable standards, (2) is the best explanation of the available data.
Wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Self-harm is almost pandemic. It's more common among girls. People lie. A lot of people lie outrageously. There are people who can't stop themselves lying even when they know everyone in the room knows the truth.
A report in the UK was published recently into how the lies of one such person resulted in the police being fooled into announcing investigation into at least half a dozen politicians and senior military personnel. The High Court Judge who wrote the report said sometimes people make false allegations for no discernible reason.
I'm sorry for this young lady. It seems like there have been some terrible things in her life.
But there's no more evidence to conclude that she was sexually abused by Hillary Clinton than there is to prove that Barack Obama is a Kenyan.
seventhdamnaccount | 49 points
Right. Self-harm is very common, and genitals seem to be a target for people who have either been abused or have feelings of shame associated with their genitals. Also, claiming the government is out to get you is very common in certain mental disorders (my birth mother thinks the government is stalking her). It could all be true, but it also could not be.
faithle55 | 50 points
It could all be true, but it also could not be.
Exactamundo.
What is so corrosive is the willingness of redditors to believe the most outrageous shit on the flimsiest of premises.
JustACrosshair_ | 6 points
People want to believe they are taking down a huge pedo group.
We might very well be, but we need to be careful of believing something because we want to believe at an emotional level instead of believing something because implication and evidence gives no other choice.
We will need "blood in the trunk " so to speak. When there is blood in the trunk of a car, forensics will take a DNA sample and match it against the victim. If it was the victim then that proces beyond a doubt, not that the suspect killed the victim - but that the victim was bleeding in the trunk of that car.
It's a huge piece of evidence but people need to understand how evidence is viewed. Victims blood in the trunk means the victim bled in the trunk, it does not outright prove the suspect killed the victim and stuck then in the trunk. Even with that smoking gun , one still needs to connect the suspect to the act, other wise we can only know that the victim was in the trunk of the car, bleeding. By not who did it.
MaskedEngineer | 3 points
If it was the victim then that proces beyond a doubt, not that the suspect killed the victim - but that the victim was bleeding in the trunk of that car.
It doesn't even prove that. It proves that the victim's blood got there... somehow.
Spac3istheplac3 | 1 points
What makes the premise of it not being true any more concrete? Where is the evidence that she has a history of self harm?
Edit 1: being downvoted for asking for evidence from people saying there needs to be evidence to substantiate an assertion. Classic reddit. Whoever decided to let their pride get in the way of being objective is more concerned with being right than finding the facts. Good luck to you, have fun living in the matrix.
Kabada | 5 points
What makes the premise of you not being reincarnated Hitler and a child rapist any more concrete than you not being a child rapist? Where is the evidence that you aren't Hitler's clone in a new body?
If you make big claims, it's on you to provide proof, not on anybody else to disprove your claims.
Spac3istheplac3 | 1 points
Heres the thing, Socrates. I asked a question and questions require answers, jot some stupid rhetoric distorting the point i am trying to make.
I have made no claims. I asked where the evidence was that she had self harmed, which was an insinuation of the comment i replied to. So what evidence is there supporting she has a history of self harm?
if i make big claims. I have made none. Others have and fail to provide the same standard of proof you require those who you disagree with to make. Does that seem fair to you?
Try going to a trial. You have to disprove claims people make all the time that are accepted as being true because people are willing to put theor hand on a bible. Truth isn't always what it seems.
Spac3istheplac3 | 1 points
If you make big claims, it's on you to provide proof, not on anybody else to disprove your claims.
How do you prove that claim? If that was the case, and there was no need for anyone to disprove your claims than anyone could make erroneous claims as being proof that wouldnt be disproven because according to your argument there is no requirement for claims to be disproven.
seventhdamnaccount | 2 points
"Innocent until proven guilty". We have that law because otherwise people could be prosecuted just off of the idea that it could be true.
Spac3istheplac3 | 1 points
Correct. That doesnt mean evidence in a case doesnt need to be disproven.
seventhdamnaccount | 1 points
I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. The burden of proof is on the accuser; of course, if there's overwhelming evidence then the defendant needs to prove innocence.
I really can't tell whether you're trying to disagree or agree with me here.
Aconitome | 1 points
my birth mother thinks the government is stalking her
Well, to be fair, that is somewhat true.
seventhdamnaccount | 1 points
lol true. I mean, she thought they were out to get her. I guess that could be true, too, though. Maybe I've been lied to my whole life 0_0
Tobias_Z | 39 points
Surprised you're upvoted this much in this thread. You are 100% correct.
be-happier | 18 points
Well its most likely that she did it to herself, but lets not rule out hilldawg, trump, putin, moon nazis and crab people.
LucyLucero11 | 2 points
That fucking face - it doesn't seem likely that she did it herself. Not to say who did, but it's flawlessly symmetrical in an upright orientation.
If she was doing that to herself, wouldn't there be errors associated with carving what would have been an upside down carving for the carver?
That said, I am done talking about this, so fucking terrible...
faithle55 | 3 points
I don't know that the girl herself was responsible. I'm just pointing to possibilities that are at least as plausible as Hillary Clinton being involved.
lovedisco | 3 points
it doesn't matter if clinton herself was involved. the web is trying to be made and this woman might be a strong node of info for the investigation.
Spac3istheplac3 | 1 points
Just as much evidence to prove it was self harm too. Iam not disagreeing that it is a possibility, however your argument defeats itself. You are making an argument that she has no evidence and you have no evidence of that yourself. The video offers no evidence, however there is a world beyond these 12 minutes of video. Just because it isnt addressed here doesnt mean it doesnt exist. For instance, there was no evidence that oxygen existed in 1400.......it sure as shit did...
Your high court judge in the uk that wrote that report is also part of a justice.ministry that was a conspirator to covering up institutionalized pedophilia from government officials in its own jurisdiction...so there is that too...not that the points that the report made are invalid those points have ben legitimized well before their report, but that has to be taken into consideration.
Proof has to be sought, discerned and found. You cant expect it to be handed to you. It has to be faught to be incovered for what it is: truth. Those who rely on being told what proof is or what evidence does or doesnt exist are easily misled.
faithle55 | 3 points
You are making an argument that she has no evidence and you have no evidence of that yourself.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of logic.
Of course there's evidence that oxygen existed in 1400. You need a better analogy.
Your high court judge in the uk that wrote that report is also part of a justice.ministry that was a conspirator to covering up institutionalized pedophilia from government officials in its own jurisdiction...
You've got it backward. It is the allegations of a man [named 'Frank' for the purposes of the investigation] about the institutionalised paedophilia that were shown to be false (because, e.g., he expressly cited dates that were factually impossible) that Lord Justice Henriques was examining, in the context of reviewing the police investigation which even the police have now admitted was fundamentally flawed.
I don't expect proof to be handed to me, not for the things I want to prove . But if someone wants me to accept that Hillary Clinton was responsible for cutting a teenage girls vagina into shreds then they are def-fucking-nitely going to have to provide me with very solid evidence - and the same should go for everyone else.
The saying goes that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and it's a good saying to live by.
Spac3istheplac3 | 3 points
The point is that the people in 1400 had no mechanism to effectively analyze that oxygen existed. That does not negate the fact that oxygen did indeed exist then albeit an existence beyond their perception. The point is just because the evidence isnt there in front of you doesnt mean it isn't there. It may just mean it hasnt been uncovered.
Again, i am skeptic as anyone. I understand the points about self harm, etc. How are those relavent and not speculative? Does anyobe have evidence she has a history of self harm? People that have shizophrenia often suffer from delusions of grandeur in which stories like these are manifest in their minds but that is a rather irrelevant point to bring up if the women is not shizphrenic. While it can offer a more lilely explanation, it doesn't mean that it does offer one.
Now, if you would answer my question after i have repeatedly asked it...do you have any evidence that this woman has a history of inflicting self harm?
faithle55 | 3 points
The point is that the people in 1400 had no mechanism to effectively analyze that oxygen existed. That does not negate the fact that oxygen did indeed exist then albeit an existence beyond their perception. The point is just because the evidence isnt there in front of you doesnt mean it isn't there. It may just mean it hasnt been uncovered.
No, the point is that animals respiring oxygen and expiring CO2 and plants respiring CO2 and expiring oxygen were obviously around then - because it is a logical necessity to produce the world today - and so THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKING EVIDENCE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE HOW YOU FUCKED IT UP.
Learn to read posts more carefully. It's part of the process of being on the internet. I didn't say it was self-harm; I was showing that there are alternatives at least as likely as the one proposed by OP.
More learning for you: Occam's razor
Spac3istheplac3 | 2 points
Woof dude. Thats the point, the oxygen and evidence was there but people living then didnt have the means to analyze it. That doesnt negate its existence. Just because it is beyond perception doesnt mean it isnt there. No one os saying oxygen didnt exist back then. My point is just because ot wasnt proven to exost doesnt mean it doesnt, which is essentially your point ie if there is no proof it isnt true.
Of course there are alternatives, like my shizoprenia example or maybe she is tripping balls on lsd during the exam...those are possible explanation but how are they relevant? Theres a possible, more likely explanation to anything that doesn't mean it is the correct explanation.
faithle55 | 2 points
Woof dude. Thats the point, the oxygen and evidence was there but people living then didnt have the means to analyze it. That doesnt negate its existence. Just because it is beyond perception doesnt mean it isnt there. No one os saying oxygen didnt exist back then. My point is just because ot wasnt proven to exost doesnt mean it doesnt, which is essentially your point ie if there is no proof it isnt true.
I literally have no idea what the hell point you're trying to make here.
Read my link.
Spac3istheplac3 | 3 points
You suck at analysis then.
faithle55 | 2 points
No, I don't. It's my job. I do it quickly and well every day.
You suck at getting your point across.
But like others of your ilk, you aren't actually smart enough to realise that. Plus, you can't even be bothered to proof read your own posts. And you're still misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting what I wrote.
What exactly is the point in you?
Spac3istheplac3 | 2 points
you aren't actually smart enough to realise that. Plus, you can't even be bothered to proof read your own posts.
Well said, I didn't realise that is how the word is spelled. I guess I just lack your unparalleled analytical aptitude. Maybe someday I will be smart.
nottheoretical | 1 points
And this public response is why kids are still being abused and dying while people giggle about tinfoil.
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faithle55 | 2 points
Since I'm not American, and I don't live in America, I highly doubt I can be considered a Hillary supporter.
Of course, I am disturbed and unsettled by all the shit that is spewed about her on the web and on redditor, and it's my personal opinion that this feverish, febrile inclination to jump straight from normality to believing that the democratic candidate for president is a murderous, fraudulent child molester is a very bad thing indeed.
SpartanTank | 1 points
Do you also deny her obscenely long list of war crimes, which includes total devastation of entire countries like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen and Pakistan? Oh, you didn't get the memo that she was the one who greenlit the arming of ~~moderate~~murderous ~~rebels~~ terrorists in Syria and Iraq, a group which evolved into what we call ISIS?
faithle55 | 1 points
This is like that famous question: "When did you stop beating your wife?" It can't actually be answered, because dealing with it on its own terms gives no acceptable outcome.
You produce some evidence that Hillary is responsible for all those things, then we can talk. (I'm interested to see how she could be responsible for the devastation of Iraq, when the invasion started 6 years before she became SoS. Also, pretty sure that the Pakistanis aren't aware that their country is 'totally devastated'.)
Those things, if true, are bad; but they are light-years away from physically mutilating a teenage girl's genitals deliberately and at length.
SpartanTank | 1 points
There's plenty of proof if you search earnestly. Here's one article with appropriate sources. I didn't even mention the instability in Honduras or the mess that's post earthquake Haiti, which this article highlights quite clearly.
(I'm interested to see how she could be responsible for the devastation of Iraq, when the invasion started 6 years before she became SoS. Also, pretty sure that the Pakistanis aren't aware that their country is 'totally devastated'.)
She voted for Iraqi war 'with conviction' and later wrote a book about it and made millions. Look up warmongering in your dictionary.
Also, I'm half-Pakistani, so I know of what I speak. Drone bombing northern areas of Pakistan has cost thousands of innocent lives. She has supported it unequivocally.
faithle55 | 1 points
See, here's where it gets so exasperating.
'supporting' something doesn't make you responsible for it.
I don't care if you're the President of Pakistan redditing from your office, Pakistan has not been 'devastated' by anything Hillary Clinton has done, and in fact while parts of the country have been badly affected by drone attacks, the country itself is not devestated at all; almost everyone in the country gets on with the process of living just like normal. (We won't get into the official if informal tolerating of islamic terrorist organisations in certain parts of Pakistan over more than two decades now and to what extent that underlies the current problems in those areas...)
The persons responsible for the devastation of Iraq are, quite simply and with no rational contrary argument available, George W Bush and his cabinet. Not only are they responsible, but because they lied and lied and misrepresented the facts, everyone who did vote for it was deceived and actually bears almost zero responsibility.
faithle55 | 1 points
Don't be bloody ridiculous.
nottheoretical | 2 points
What fantasy world do you live in where groups of people never practice weird religious shit or mess with kids? I want to go there.
Aconitome | 1 points
Sexual abuse at the age she is talking about would result in internal damage wouldn't it? Wouldn't doctors be able to confirm it?
faithle55 | 1 points
I'm not well-versed in these things.
But I can give you an illustration. In the UK in the 80s we heard about a - not sure if it was a test or an observation. In certain circumstances if the anus of a very young child relaxed and opened while a child was being examined, this was said by experienced paediatricians to be conclusive evidence of anal penetration.
Later it turned out both a) untrained paediatricians had mistakenly diagnosed abuse because of unfamiliarity with the test and b) it turns out it's not conclusive evidence of anal penetration anyway.
So... it's quite dangerous to look at any piece of evidence in isolation, there's no 'smoking gun' to find.
WhatisMangina | 1 points
Not only that, but just googling her name shows she's deep in to various conspiracy theories. Something about Project Monarch (seriously, like straight out of 'Quantum Break' type shit, only with mind control). If I had to take everything in to account, I'd say, odds are she's most likely a pretty disturbed individual who needs some real help. It's incredibly sad actually, when you get further in to her past as a public person.
faithle55 | 1 points
I haven't done that, but your post confirms what I suspected. As you say, it's very sad. Poor characters like this can suddenly find themselves chewed up and spit out by the rabid need some people have to chase phantoms like a dog chases cars.
madisonrebel | 133 points
HOW MUCH more is it going to take for these people to be brought to justice?
Hard. Fucking. Evidence.
Nothing less.
And we're not even close yet. To make protestations like the case is already closed is counterproductive and resource-wasting.
Pebe_ | 19 points
This is the most reasonable thing I have seen in this entire thread. At this point, there is essentially zero evidence.
nisaaru | 4 points
You can't flush out a group of people who are located in all the nerve centers of society by legal means. You still seem to believe into working institutions when the reality shows that's not the case. In the Dutroux case they tried and look where it got them.
Angelawiest | 1 points
There really is no hard proof. It sucks, I feel half crazy for believing these things.
Subseadan | 110 points
I posted this on another thread. I just started reading her book "access denied" and she said that HRC has a thing for mutilated vaginas.
Special_Prosecutor | 96 points
"female genital mutilation is permissible" - Saleha Abedin
not a coincidence
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PizzagateConspiracy | 4 points
If there is any proof that this guy is legit, this is fucking terrifying.
jabber_of_poo | 6 points
What did the post say?
PizzagateConspiracy | 3 points
Shit, I'm upset he deleted it... Basically it was a screenshot of a thread on 4chan of someone claiming to be a part of Wikileaks' staff. He was issued a gag order and has been out of contact with the rest of staff and Julian since the internet was originally disconnected. He claims no one knows where Julian is and as far as he knows, Julian is dead. But most importantly, he urged several times not to leak anything on wikileaks because the CIA has commandeered it and is using it to find and prosecute whistle blowers.
SLEEPLESSNIGHT5 | 7 points
Well to be fair she is a crusty old cunt.
sandwichcountsurplus | 15 points
Easy, leave Krusty out of this
Rosssauced | 2 points
The man is an American treasure and one of television's best examples of an aborted plot line.
(Homer was going to be Krusty because Bart thought Krusty was the greatest and didn't respect his father) - for those that don't know the story.
Sorry, when investigating this kind of evil I need to reach for my security blanket that is pop culture trivia or I'm going to go full Travis Bickle.
TrickyKid7889 | 100 points
Hey guys,
I first posted in on another thread but, I realized this might not have been the best thread to talk about it so i'm trying here.
Basically I saw something a few weeks ago that I felt was stupid at the time but that is now scratching a small part of my brain. So here it is - and this is probably nothing - but a major pedo case occurred in Europe in the late 80's which officials records can be found on the wikileaks database.
I remember reading it and felling disgusting by all the things I was reading - most of the tortures that occurred seems to fit the descriptions of this poor woman here - and where does it start getting strange ?
Well it says in the files that the main suspect behind all this (Michel Fourniret if i recall correctly) was claiming during his interrogations to be in contact with powerful people such as George Bush and stuff. I don't really know what to make of it but hey, maybe there's some truth to it...
bruhtbh | 49 points
Yeah, Bush was in power after the Clintons. If they're all connected and keeping each other in power, it's definitely likely he banged kids too! Man this is crazy how deep this goes!
grlldcheese87 | 62 points
Prob means Bush sr. He's been hinted at in the past.
2penniesrus | 62 points
Saw a few things the other day that made me scratch my head. Could be nothing but a few people are claiming that HRC does not have Parkinson's but actually has a disease called Kuru. Kuru is a prion disease linked to cannibalism and manifests similar symptoms to Parkinson's.
Recently Janet Reno died of "Parkinson's disease". I believe George HW also has Parkinson's.
It seems like they all run in similar circles. Kuru can be spread by eating prion carrying bodies/material. While there is probably no way to confirm the links, I found it interesting.
grlldcheese87 | 25 points
Wait are you serious about Reno and Bush?
There's also that time traveler theory that claims the brain damage is caused by overuse of the time machine.
So we've got 4 competing theories.
1 is a lie. Obviously.
2 is possible, but pretty unlikely. .08% of the population is diagnosed every year. That's messy but it's off by an order of magnitude or 2 to have 3 ultra elite cases. Depends how many ppl you consider elite. I'm thinking 10-20.
3 is impossible as far as we know.
4 is possible if the ultra elite are eating brains.
Personally, i really hope I'm wrong about time travel being impossible.
2penniesrus | 32 points
Janet Reno http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5820e1f1e4b0d9ce6fbde6ec
HW Bush http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/19/politics/george-h-w-bush-neck-released-hospital/
Others- Trudeau Sr.-whose son I read somewhere has removed/changed legislature with pedophiles(do not quote me on this); A pope; and I've seen some senators and house of reps leaders https://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/parkinsons-famous.shtml
*This is all conjecture based on the theory that Kuru is the real diagnosis behind these cases of Parkinson's. Long shot, but interesting.
grlldcheese87 | 22 points
Thank you. Don't worry about nonsense. We're used to sifting through everything plus trolling plus derailing by shills.
You're doing what i didn't want to do.
Lots of people jump in with Satanism lore. And it's a big distraction unless it helps us connect dots in a meaningful way.
Your dates list is absolutely worthwhile and interesting as a direction of research. And if we start to find an undeniable statistical cluster of 'parkinsons' that would be fucking insane, just like many of the other revelations along the way.
Stick around.
2penniesrus | 17 points
Thanks. I get it. I've been following the threads for a few weeks. I don't know one person who would want their Parkinson's like symptoms to be explained by Kuru-a prion disease from eating brains. Other symptoms of Parkinson's can be tremors, involuntary muscle movements, epilepsy. Not something worth pursuing actively but if we keep coming across politicians with Parkinson's disease and financial ties to Clintons, they are probably death eaters
nisaaru | 11 points
Why do you think Satanism is a big distraction? I consider it the root behind ritual pedophilia and worse(assumed cannibalism).
This isn't just some collection of pedophiles. That's just a means to an end.
grlldcheese87 | 2 points
Because getting into the motivations of this is really horrifying. I don't mean it as an insult.
This is the stuff that doesn't have an easy motivation. And I'm not sure i want to learn about theirs.
I'm pretty curious if that direction will go anywhere.
Aconitome | 1 points
People think satanism is a "distraction" because it ties religious belief with it. If people don't believe in Satan than it seems ridiculous.
But the important thing is that these pedophiles and murderers actually do believe in Satan and that's all that's important. Just because they aren't actually channeling the power of Satan by performing these horrible rituals, they still believe they are and they will continue to do so.
Also, some people refuse to believe dark shit like this can happen. Consider how shocked people are to learn about a kidnapping or murder in their area. Now tell them that most of their government officials are cannibals, murderers, and rapists, and watch the widespread disbelief/denial.
nisaaru | 1 points
I have the same perspective.
Until pizza gate I've always considered these pedophile rings in society as a means to blackmail, control or as a gate keeper to only allow certain personalities further and create sociopaths by breaking people's moral programming. Give it some kind of "rational" perspective.
This whole secret society gnostic masonic/pagan stuff felt completely alien to me because there are not even hints visible in my country but that could have been pure ignorance.
But now we're at the stage to assume sacrifice/blood rituals and cannibalism as the last stage which is something I hadn't ever considered to be real on that level.
It makes me rethinking horrible serial killer cases if that wasn't just the top of the iceberg of these structures or collateral effects of people who came in contact and went completely rogue.
Have you seen the kid toys in the bedroom of Podesta? Now I can only conclude that these are trophies of his activities.
kurt1004 | 8 points
Check for child trafficking reports from new Guinea as well as if the "researchers" were known Clinton associates or were friends with top politicians of their time. Look for things similar to how they were moving kids out of Haiti. WTF Wikipedia http://archive.is/x7PL3 kuru comes from New Guinea http://archive.is/RtqD9 which, according to Wikipedia, has a major problem with human trafficking. Wikipedia even says politicians lol... From state.gov http://archive.is/E4cQm this Kuru shit looks REALLY shady.. http://archive.is/ba5Wi why is HRC so interested in the health of PNG? She is building a hospital? Could it be from the Wikipedia article where they said some of the locals developed immunity to Kuru??? Asdfasdfadfgjsbfj!! The fuck?
2penniesrus | 3 points
Just read some of that last link. Raises a lot of questions...
On a separate note, does anyone know exactly or have any theories on what these foreign governments are donating to the Clinton Foundation for?
kurt1004 | 3 points
For favors. For government contracts. Give a few million and get a few billion back from uncle Sam. Check out the arms deals she made or the friends of Bill who got the Haiti money.
2penniesrus | 1 points
Yeah. Given the world wide scope of this pedo ring I am wondering if any of these quid pro quos were done directly for children or turning a blind eye to human trafficking.
thisfarandnofurther | 1 points
I think the law change is to make age of consent for homosexual sex the same as for heterosexual sex. So with the new law, 16 is the new age of consent but a 14 or 15 year old can legally have sex with someone who is less than 5 years older than they are.
MassStockholmSyndrom | 11 points
The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people,.. under the supervision of the reverse vampires...
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MassStockholmSyndrom | 1 points
Fuck, that was the most intense reply to a simpsons quote I ever saw. Chill a bit, you must be tired get a lemonade or something.
kurt1004 | 6 points
Check for child trafficking reports from new Guinea as well as if the "researchers" were known Clinton associates or were friends with top politicians of their time. Look for things similar to how they were moving kids out of Haiti. WTF Wikipedia http://archive.is/x7PL3 kuru comes from New Guinea http://archive.is/RtqD9 which, according to Wikipedia, has a major problem with human trafficking. Wikipedia even says politicians lol... From state.gov http://archive.is/E4cQm this Kuru shit looks REALLY shady.. http://archive.is/ba5Wi http://archive.is/ba5Wi why is HRC so interested in the health of PNG? She is building a hospital? Could it be from the Wikipedia article where they said some of the locals developed immunity to Kuru??? Asdfasdfadfgjsbfj!! The fuck?
grlldcheese87 | 4 points
God damnit. I thought the kuru thing was funny when i looked it up. It was just so obviously Clinton's symptoms plus all her alleged symptoms(laughing, seizures, tantrums). But I still didn't take it that seriously.
Wtf man. Wtf man. Wtf. Wtf. Wtf!!!!!
Burn it. Burn it with fire. Burn it all down.
Maybe Obama explained all this to Trump at the WH. That would definitely explain his face afterwards.
kurt1004 | 2 points
Well I'm not saying it's 100% true, buy it is 100% possible. She set New Guinea as her first trip as Secretary of state there for a reason. If it is true she doesn't have long to live so time may tell if we don't find evidence first.
Enigmatic_Continuum | 4 points
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, the President of Argentina, has also suffered some strange medical problems. She had a mysterious brain bleed they said was due to a fall (just like Hillary), she broke her ankle with no further explanation (unsteady on her feet like Hillary), the Argentine people are suspicious of her medical team (just like the US is about Hillary's med team), Kirchner fired her doctor because she thought he was leaking info to the public, and Hillary was caught trying to get Kirchner's medical records because she wanted to know what medication she was on if any and how she was handling stress.
grlldcheese87 | 2 points
Oh Jesus Christ.
Thank you for sharing. This is getting really dark.
Enigmatic_Continuum | 1 points
I tried to find out if Kirchner had been to Papua New Guinea, but no dice. Although, if she starts coughing uncontrollably and and gets a lesion on her tongue, the jig is up.
thisfarandnofurther | 1 points
The name kuru means “to shiver” or “trembling in fear.” The symptoms of the disease include muscle twitching and loss of coordination. Other symptoms include difficulty walking, involuntary movements, behavioral and mood changes, dementia, and difficulty eating. The latter can cause malnutrition. Kuru has no known cure. It’s usually fatal within one year of contraction.
The identification and study of kuru helped along scientific research in a number of ways. It was the first neurodegenerative disease resulting from an infectious agent. It led to the creation of a new class of diseases including Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker disease, and fatal familial insomnia. Today the study of kuru still impacts research on neurodegenerative diseases.
tridentgum | 1 points
Saw a few things the other day that made me scratch my head. Could be nothing but a few people are claiming that HRC does not have Parkinson's but actually has a disease called Kuru. Kuru is a prion disease linked to cannibalism and manifests similar symptoms to Parkinson's.
If she had Kuru she'd be dead already. You don't just get symptoms like not being able to walk and then be able to have a debate weeks later.
2penniesrus | 1 points
Yeah. Admittedly, I'm not well versed on Kuru, but it seems like symptoms may take up to 30 years to appear, and there may be different stages of progression for symptoms. Also, these people are very rich and may have access to specialized care. Can't rule it out
cwilxs | 2 points
FROM WIKIPEDIA ON KURU: In the first (ambulant) stage, the infected individual may exhibit unsteady stance and gait, decreased muscle control, tremors, difficulty pronouncing words (dysarthria), and titubation. This stage is named because the individual is still able to walk around despite symptoms.[8]
In the second (sedentary) stage, the infected individual in is incapable of walking without support and suffers ataxia and severe tremors. Furthermore, the individual shows signs of emotional instability and depression, yet exhibits uncontrolled and sporadic laughter. Despite the other neurological symptoms, tendon reflexes are still intact at this stage of the disease.[8]
In the third and final (terminal) stage, the infected individual’s existing symptoms, like ataxia, progress to the point where they are no longer capable of sitting without support. New symptoms also emerge: the individual develops dysphagia, or difficulty swallowing, which can lead to severe malnutrition. They may also become incontinent, lose the ability to speak and become unresponsive to their surroundings, despite maintaining consciousness.[8] Towards the end of the terminal stage patients often develop chronic ulcerated wounds that can be easily infected. An infected person usually dies within three months to two years after the first terminal stage symptoms, often because of pneumonia or infection.[9]
If she does have it, she is likely in stage 2. I cant find much on the progression on each stage, just the last stage.
The problem we have is that there is medication that can mask some of these symptoms..
Further, here is a link to her having tremors during a debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=925ihXI1lkE
kurt1004 | 1 points
Check for child trafficking reports from new Guinea as well as if the "researchers" were known Clinton associates or were friends with top politicians of their time. Look for things similar to how they were moving kids out of Haiti. WTF Wikipedia http://archive.is/x7PL3 kuru comes from New Guinea http://archive.is/RtqD9 which, according to Wikipedia, has a major problem with human trafficking. Wikipedia even says politicians lol... From state.gov http://archive.is/E4cQm this Kuru shit looks REALLY shady.. http://archive.is/ba5Wi http://archive.is/ba5Wi why is HRC so interested in the health of PNG? She is building a hospital? Could it be from the Wikipedia article where they said some of the locals developed immunity to Kuru??? Asdfasdfadfgjsbfj!! The fuck?
Haplo781 | -1 points
Are you listening to yourself? Fucking KURU ?
2penniesrus | 105 points
I'm sorry I thought I was in the satanism, child sacrifice, spirit cooking, pedo ring thread. Guess not.
TrickyKid7889 | 27 points
Dude that's crazy, I remember it because I was a kid back then, no parents would let their kid go out for fear never seeing them again...These were really dark days that marked a whole generation...To think this might be connected to the Clintons and stuff is just breathtaking (in a sad disgusting way)
thenamezpanda | 14 points
The decade of satanic panic!
heihuquan | 46 points
The term "Satanic Panic" was devised and propagated by the CIA and their front group known as the False Memory Syndrome Foundation in much the same way that the CIA utilised the equally vilifying "Conspiracy Theory". Both engineered terms are loaded and meant to both ridicule and discredit, designed to drive any interested parties from looking any further into real crimes.
The False Memory Syndrome Foundation was deployed during a critical time to spin and dismiss news accounts of actual ritual sexual assaults and murders that were reported and getting increasing coverage in the media. If you do some on-line research you'll find that the founders of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation were/are a collection of paedophiles, paid apologists in addition to MK-ULTRA connected individuals with backgrounds in military psychiatrics and research and development of mind-control experiments and operations.
blieveit | 2 points
one of the lasting effects has been a lack of research on dissociation. well probably just a lack of public research :P
bruhtbh | -14 points
Man that's nuts. It's probably going to start happening again now that Trump is in power. He was so close to the Clintons back then and he already has child rape allegations. There's practically no way they aren't all connected.
IceDagger316 | 31 points
he already has child rape allegations
Allegations made in a 100 million dollar lawsuit by someone without a lawyer, that no one has identified, interviewed, or even located. Suit was dismissed in CA, refiled in NY, and dismissed again. It's bullshit. Even the mainstream media (who was 1000% biased against Trump) didn't cover it.
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IceDagger316 | 17 points
Deep connections?
They ran in similar social circles and seemingly were moderate acquaintances. Keep in mind that their types of people (billionaires) are different than you or me. We have friends over for dinner whose company we enjoy or whose spouse we tolerate because we like the other. Billionaires don't operate like that. I'm sure they do in some cases but not everyone that has dinner at someone else's house are friends with them the way we think of friends.
"Deep connections" makes it sound like they were BFFs. Epstein was a member at Trump's resort. Trump ate dinner with a large group of influential people at Epstein's house once. I don't see any "deep connections". He may have flown on his plane one time, but even that isn't anywhere in the logs like Clinton's 26 flights.
Even Virginia Roberts' lawyer, who subpoenaed Trump in 09, says:
"During the conversation, Mr. Trump was open and forthright," Edwards said. "I cannot discuss the substance of the conversation. But I will say that it was obvious to me that he was in no way involved in any untoward activity."
So even if they knew each other deeper than in passing, if the lawyer of the suit that is naming Epstein, Alan Dershowitz and Prince fucking Andrew of the British Royal family (among others) as guilty parties isn't throwing Trump in there, there must not be much, if anything, there.
RAPIN_BILLY | 11 points
dont worry bruh that dude just a ctr talking point bot. your response was eloquent and succinct, to the point that i want to save it as a canned response for these ctr hacks.
people like to bring up the connections trump has. he's a legendary businessman, he knows anyone who is anyone. he knows the clintons ffs.
IceDagger316 | 1 points
your response was eloquent and succinct, to the point that i want to save it as a canned response for these ctr hacks
Thanks. And you're more than welcome to use it.
kerrykingsbaldhead | 0 points
Yes, only the Clintons could be involved in a satanic pedo genital mutilation ring. Trump, nah.
IceDagger316 | 5 points
No, it's not only the Clintons. It's all of the globalists' (like George Soros) puppet politicians (on both sides of the political coin). Trump does not fall into that category.
Now if he passes the TPP through as is without renegotiating it to benefit America or doesn't start the process of building the wall, or capitulates to any other globalist agendas that don't benefit America, then I'll start to question whether or not they've got something on him. But as it stands at the moment, Trump is not falling in line with the globalist agenda. And that's because he doesn't have to, because he isn't afraid of them blackmailing him.
bruhtbh | -15 points
Please, he officially has more child rape allegations than Hillary now. MSM isn't covering pizzagate either. Clearly part of the cover up.
IceDagger316 | 11 points
If any of them had any even remotely legitimate appearance of merit you would have heard about them, while the ones against Clinton were unreported (much like the tax loophole that Trump and Clinton both used was only reported on as if Trump did it).
And they aren't reporting on pizzagate because if they were to do so without substantive evidence, Podesta et al would sue their asses into oblivion. All we have right now is a series of loosely connected dots based on emails that seemingly contain codewords. And let's be honest, Reddit doesn't have the best history of detective work. Ask the Tripathi family.
RAPIN_BILLY | 9 points
i don't think the poster you're interacting with is trying to have an honest conversation.
bruhtbh | -7 points
Except we did hear about them! Haven't heard anything about Podesta banding kids yet either but that's almost a fact at this point. Face it, Trump has a real chance at either being connected, or molesting kids on his own.
Haplo781 | 9 points
The allegations materialized after he started campaigning and the case was suddenly dropped just before election day.
Nobody has ever seen the accuser, who appears to be closely associated with a former producer for The Jerry Springer Show .
Verdict: total bullshit.
IceDagger316 | 0 points
Okay, well go file a 100 million dollar lawsuit against Podesta and maybe then they will cover it. Because the lawsuit is why it got attention, not because it had merit. Right now, pizzagate only exists on the internet and they have no reason to cover it. Take it to the real world and see what happens.
Apparently, you don't even have to have a lawyer to file a lawsuit...
whatsausername90 | 10 points
Yeah. I mean, I know most people looking into this are Trump supporters, but he really deserves to be looked at with scrutiny too. He was close friends with not only the Clintons but also Jeffrey Epstein in the past, and, like you said, has underage rape allegations. If people are suspicious of Obama for what could possibly be a large order of specialty hot dogs, they really need to look more closely at Trump.
-DontCallMeShort- | 9 points
To be fair, we just went through an 18 month election cycle. Trump is one of the most vilified candidates of all time. The elites, the MSM, the public, the guy down at the laundromat, and the pope tried to take him down. If there was deep dirt, I have to imagine it would've been leaked by now. I'm not saying that I'm not skeptical as well, but I do think the vetting process he went through and made it out clean is a good start.
whatsausername90 | 9 points
Yeah, I get it. I've seen the insane media bias, I know the resources Clinton has. Heck, I bet she had that "pussy" tape on him for months before she had it strategically released on the same day wikileaks started leaking the emails.*
But this stuff with Alefantis and all the other related things has been going on right in from of everyone's faces for years. I mean, they had a fucking pedophile symbol on their logo and creepy pictures of kids on their public instagram. Yet the only reason anyone started looking into it was because people were scouring through Podesta's emails. The elites have got each other's backs on this, they're not going to expose each other, it's up to regular folks.
I know people are quick to dismiss negative stuff about Trump, and understandably so, because of all the bs the media has spun. But there's a good explanation why, if there is serious dirt on him, that Clinton wouldn't have wanted to dig it up. It would make people look at her more closely and find exactly the stuff we're finding now. So of course she'd keep quiet about it.
I'm not accusing Trump of anything yet, I'm just suggesting that because of his connections and history, that maybe it's worth looking into.
*edit: added a sentence
bruhtbh | 4 points
We can't afford to leave a single stone unturned. This is too big! We need threads connecting Trump as well. It makes too much sense.
funfingerfood | 5 points
http://www.gossipextra.com/2016/10/31/donald-trump-perv-jeffrey-epstein-mar-a-lago-6462/ In Trump's defence he may be innocent.
bruhtbh | 1 points
Everyone in this thing may be innocent, but we've learned cover ups are easy and where there's smoke there's fire. He has arguably the most evidence of all these politicians.
whatsausername90 | -3 points
He's one of the names in Epstein "little black book" and they've hung out at each other's residences. It doesn't prove he's done anything, but they are familiar with each other. It's enough to warrant a look. If he's innocent, then nobody will find anything, right? No harm in checking it out though.
antipasta_ | 1 points
Yes indeed, I'm not a Trump fan I find him ridiculous, like a clown, America's yous are fucked.
justforthissubred | 8 points
Start happening again? It never stopped happening. And I don't think Trump is in on this. I think part of the reason he ran is because he knows whats up and is going to stop this shit. They tried to get to him and that failed. They tried to falsely accused him and he told them to fuck off. Now he is the president and they are shitting their pants.
I hope...
bruhtbh | -2 points
And he was in power before the Clintons. Trump, a close friend of the Clintons. It's very possible that every president besides Obama for at least 25 years is involved in this thing. Just look at the evidence all around us!
IceDagger316 | 33 points
It's very possible that every president besides Obama
LOL
justforthissubred | 13 points
No shit! Shill revealed! Obama had FUCKING PHONE BANKS AT COMET How is he not involved? LMAO!!!
bruhtbh | -2 points
Think about it. He stopped Hillary's run. I'm not saying he isn't involved, I'm just saying he's the least likely out of them all and has few implications than anyone else.
IceDagger316 | 13 points
He stopped Hillary's run...in 2008?
Because he was all in for her for the last year or so. ALLLLLLL in.
bruhtbh | 5 points
That's what political parties do though. He wasn't involved with the sex ring because he opposed Clinton in 2008 and won. If they were connected, that never would've happened. That's why they rigged the election this time, they couldn't have an outsider fucking it up. Clinton even got Trump the nod on the Republican side (look it up) so that no matter what somebody in their gang would be in power this time. Jesus, wake up, it's all around you.
IceDagger316 | 15 points
You tell me to wake up but your focus is way too narrow. Clinton was stopped in 08 so that they could usher in a black president to further the racial divisions in America that would eventually, when stoked enough and backed by SJW sheep that were molded by the press, lead to civil war. This civil war would then be an easy in for the globalists to move in and take over America.
Clinton vs Obama in 08 had NOTHING to do with who was in the pedophile ring and who wasn't. That canvas is much bigger. She stayed in until the end because it was part of the show, to set her up for this election season. Shit backfired. That's why they are scrambling right now to continue to run Trump and his burgeoning administration down in the press, paying these people to protest and doxxing electors and making threats against them to change their vote. They are still desperate to either get Hillary in there by hook or by crook or start their civil war via protest riots.
And Clinton did use the media to give Trump the nod, but that was because she thought he would be a guaranteed victory over someone like say a Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. And if the Bushes are balls deep (pardon the pun) in this whole thing, why not push Jeb out there as her opponent for the same reason you state? They would obviously have a deeper history than the Clintons and Trump.
And they rigged the primary against Bernie because he wasn't going to do what the globalists wanted. The world does not revolve around this pedophile ring, bruh.
tridentgum | 1 points
so that no matter what somebody in their gang would be in power this time. Jesus, wake up, it's all around you.
I swear to god, I think you guys are complete idiots. "Wake up" to the most insane conspiracy theory in the world lol.
ApexDelicto | 7 points
By this logic Trump would be cleared, too (he also "stopped Hillary's run") yet you seem to be all over him being involved.
bruhtbh | -2 points
Ah, but that's where it gets tricky. Clinton was heavily involved in getting Trump through the Republican primary. They were working together, and just trying to make sure one of them one. The fact that Obama defeated Clinton in the primary could very well suggest that he wasn't involved.
NO_COAT_FOR_YOU | 22 points
Did you see the $65k on hot dogs leak? Seems Obama may be implicated as well.
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1223066_re-get-ready-for-chicago-hot-dog-friday-.html
bruhtbh | -1 points
That one looks like it might actually be about hot dogs, but I'm not canceling anything out.
oldchangeling | 10 points
Even at $1 per hotdog (which is pretty damn pricey, especially when buying in volume) that would be 65,000 hotdogs. How many grills would you need for that cookout? How many tons of charcoal? How much lighter fluid? :-)
RAPIN_BILLY | 3 points
leave the shill be xd, he's been in here for hours spreading the most ignorant disinfo.
bruhtbh | -2 points
Well the chicago dog has a bunch of shit on it, and they got drinks I'm sure, and entertainment, but yeah, doesn't seem frugal.
quiz1 | 7 points
Wikileaks refers to an email that discusses Obama throwing pizza parties on taxpayer dime in the White House.
MassStockholmSyndrom | 5 points
https://i.redd.it/gg7r04ttkaxx.jpg
bruhtbh | 3 points
You could probably find a good Biden one too.
MassStockholmSyndrom | 7 points
https://i.imgur.com/5vu1QCI.png
EyeCrush | 3 points
This is the best proof in regards to Obama for the non red-pilled.
THIS NEEDS TO GO TO THE FRONT PAGE.
IVIaskerade | 0 points
I mean, we have absolutely no proof Bush is part of this at the moment, so rather than jumping to conclusions about "how deep this goes" we should reserve judgement until we have evidence.
bruhtbh | 2 points
We have no real evidence that there even is a huge pedo ring and all these politicians are involved. We have to keep searching. Nothing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt yet.
thenamezpanda | 24 points
Anyone remember the Jonny Gosh case? There were claims that these kidnapped children where at parties hosted in the white house.
SLEEPLESSNIGHT5 | 12 points
I member, he was a newspaper boy in Iowa that was like 9 years old when he was abducted on his paper route, missing person never found. Do you have a source on the White House claims?
thenamezpanda | 6 points
His mother did a few interviews, I heard the story through sword and scales podcast, he came back to his mother as an adult and discussed some of these things. It's definitely worth the listen
Sister_Lauren | 2 points
Search his name, there is a lot of information and speculation that he is now Jeff Gannon, the fake reporter and gay prostitute who was a favorite of President GW Bush and asked him lots of softball, safe questions during his press conferences.
Crunch43 | 1 points
Go check out Ted Gunderson videos on YouTube. He talks about Johnny Gosh being Jeff Gannon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU
whitedeer27 | 7 points
Dutroux affair?
TrickyKid7889 | 3 points
Yeah it's that. If you read the files you can clearly see a few politician names quoted from times to times.
c_a_s_i_o | 95 points
HOW MUCH more is it going to take for these people to be brought to justice?
Uhh, how about the normal legal standard of evidence...?
Milennial_Falcon | 6 points
There's plenty of probable cause for a search warrant, but I doubt police would act on it, given who the accused are.
LucyLucero11 | 1 points
Supposedly the FBI has it in spades, and they're looking for a venue for legal action. The argument is that this stuff is so pervasive in government agencies, that essentially any one who could prosecute is complicit or doesn't want to be suicided.
Supposedly, that's the word on the street, but from a lot of people: https://youtu.be/DFZRQcSMeeM Roundtable discussion before the pizzagate business
Sm3agolol | 59 points
Ok, so I watched it.....and that is hardly proof of.....anything, really. I don't even see conclusive evidence of ritualistic scarring, looked close to normal. Much less that it actually implicates a specific person. Anyone else watch the whole thing and not really feel like this is really legit proof?
CorncobJohnson | 29 points
Welcome to pizzagate, get used to it
Milennial_Falcon | 0 points
Yep. This sub has been essentially counterproductive so far, only serving to make us look crazy.
TRAIN_WRECK_0 | 13 points
The gynecologist herself said that it there were incisions made.
Sm3agolol | 15 points
And there is no other possible explanation other than ritualistic mutilation.....done for...reasons?
McPeePants34 | 10 points
That is connected to Hillary Clinton based on this person's testimony alone... I just don't get why people keep asking why no one has been locked up yet. Like, do you people really not see that there's no actual evidence here?
Oracle_at_Delphi | 8 points
Honestly, Reddit is starting to concern me lately. This type of thinking and mob mentality seems to have amplified after the election. It was clearly here before, but it seems more pervasive now and a lot more up voted and supported. Just yesterday someone tried to argue that a person saying "the Holocaust happened" was evidence of the Holocaust happening (obviously it happened but that's not proof).
NaturalSelectionDied | 7 points
looked close to normal
If that's close to normal, see a doctor please
Sm3agolol | 2 points
Did you even look at the picture? Tell me what exactly is so obviously ritualistic mutilation.
blizzardveers | 58 points
Wait, are we taking the word of Cathy O'Brien? The same Cathy O'Brien who's married to Mark Phillips and accused of brainwashing Shaela Miller?
This same Cathy O'Brien?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2931364/pg1
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-572963.html
https://millerfamilyblogging.wordpress.com/
Beyond herself actually being, potentially, an accomplice to corruption of a minor herself. The story she tells doesn't line up with MK-Ultra's timeline, or even the Clinton's, imo.
I've always been highly skeptical of the MKUltra people, because there's literally no way to prove or disprove what they're saying, due to the nature of which the experiment's records were destroyed. Especially when they have books to sell you, media appearances to get and other various bullshit to make money off you.
Kenny_log_n_s | 40 points
I don't think any of your sources are credible
blizzardveers | 55 points
...and a page out of a book, that reads like shitty fanfiction, which she wants you to buy is?
RikaMX | 3 points
Those links are nothing man, just look at them lol.
I'm not saying we have evidence, I'm saying yours is as vague as OP's.
LucyLucero11 | 2 points
I don't know. I honestly do not know what to think. In the video when she's asked, "was there a lot of bleeding," she went blank like she had no idea... typically I would say that's evidence that's she making it up, but in this case, if she were as dissociative as she claims, maybe she wouldn't have been aware?
That said, if that's the case, wouldn't her memories and claims be HIGHLY manipulatable? We all know, the healthiest of us can have shaped and outright false recall.
IDK what to think about this, except to not draw conclusions
TrumpRules2016 | 39 points
JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST. This confirms what I thought all along about Hillary Clinton. She's evil as fuck.
SLEEPLESSNIGHT5 | 8 points
And she's a lesbo with huma
EyeCrush | 18 points
And she's a lesbo with huma
Who cares? I think the real important thing here is that Hillary Clinton is a rapist and genital mutilator.
-DontCallMeShort- | 18 points
I think Huma is an important link to this case. She was seemingly groomed to be Hillary's handler, has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, and is in many of the leaks.
Sister_Lauren | 1 points
You are the first person I heard of who has accused Hillary of mutilating anyone. That is not what Cathy O'Brien said.
OkieCowboy | 33 points
Ummmm NO!!! Make it stop!!!
Can you imagine the pain that went along with that?
esip | 33 points
The word "CONFIRMED" pretty much means nothing to me now.
Filmpolice | -3 points
It's in the fucking video right before your eyes. That is about as confirmed as one can get.
pleasedontsuicideme | 32 points
Also, she would have had to do it YEARS ago for it to heal so well like that.
Edit: She as in O'brien if she was faking it. Don't see why anyone would plan this so far in advance and fuck up their genitals like that.
WhiteOrca | 17 points
You don't see why, but that doesn't make it impossible.
KatanaPig | 11 points
Is it reasonable to suspect that she is faking it? I get that a lot of the stuff here was "unbelievable" a month ago, but the idea she is faking it and waiting for this moment for it to be relevant is so insanely improbable it eclipses the entire pizzagate theory entirely.
Tfish | 5 points
I don't think it's that improbable. If someone is prone to either convincing themselves of something false or simply outright lying for attention then their best opportunities would be after something controversial comes up.
OgreMagoo | 4 points
the idea she is faking it and waiting for this moment for it to be relevant is so insanely improbable it eclipses the entire pizzagate theory entirely
One crazy chick vs. giant ring of elite pedophiles who have somehow managed to keep it a secret aside from ambiguous references to carbs in emails
KatanaPig | 4 points
Yeah, I'd say a woman accurately predicting the future based on zero information at the time is more unlikely than several high ranking officials working together to fuck kids as a unit.
Were you every part of a fraternity or another type of group like that? I have been, and admittedly we did not take it very seriously. But when it came to some of the higher up members it was apparent this was something very real and very serious to them.
To me, this is much easier to believe than a person channeling Nostradamus like this.
thisfarandnofurther | 1 points
Right, the odds would be heavily weighted on the crazy chick side , if the giant ring of elite pedophiles hadn't ever happened before and if there was only one crazy chick.
Catholic Church?
OgreMagoo | 1 points
As far as I'm aware most of the instances of abuse within the Catholic Church involved individuals molesting children in isolation and then being insufficiently punished by church authorities after the fact. Also, many of them were rank-and-file priests, not powerful officials. Anyways, the main point is that there wasn't any sort of well-developed coordination of pedophiliac activities amongst officials, which is what you're alleging the DNC elite did.
That takes care of the first bit I think. So, who are the other crazy chicks?
Pebe_ | 1 points
It may not have been planned for that very moment. It may just be a convenient thing from her past that she could now use to her advantage. The scars could be their from self harm for example.
pleasedontsuicideme | 7 points
Yeah, def doesn't make it impossible. People do crazy things.
Basically, either way you look at it is just as crazy.
Did she do it to herself and found just the right moment and conspiracy to bubble up for it to be relevant?
Or is what she is saying true?
Both are pretty much the same level of insane. I would like to find out more about her gyno and see if she is a real dr...Anyone got her name?
Necnill | 7 points
I don't think they're the same level of insane at all - self mutilation is definitely a thing. If she was in a psychotic episode, she could definitely have been capable of doing it herself. In my opinion, connecting it to HRC is a reach. This subreddit is pretty full of confirmation bias.
pleasedontsuicideme | 5 points
A lot of this sub is full of confirmation bias, especially as it grows bigger.
The connection isn't a reach considering she directly accused HRC for all this. I do, however, think it would be damaging to our cause to blindly believe this without solid evidence. At the same time, it is important to make note of these things in case it makes a connection or is confirmed somewhere else later on.
datgoodnooch | 3 points
This story came out in 1995 in her book Trance Formation of America. This is not a new story by any means. I imagine you can find more information in that book.
leavenoprints | 26 points
I don't necessarily disbelieve her, but saying she has mutilated genitals is proof she was tortured...... Is not proof. Lots of people self-harming and COULD be self-inflicted.
Filmpolice | 7 points
I did not say it was "proof." I said it demanded an explanation. The explanation that it was inflicted upon her is more plausible, given the cumulative evidence, than the explanation that it was self-inflicted.
leavenoprints | 6 points
I understand what you write and what you said. I'm not questioning YOU, I'm just giving my opinion. It certainly looks odd (her vagina) but who the fuck knows. So much stuff going on. I do sincerely hope that 'something' undisputable comes up and blows the whole thing WIDE open. Seems all too often that when these matters are exposed (like Jimmy Saville) they're dead or on their way out anyway. I know that there was talk of slowly drip-feeding information (in the Saville case) so that by the time it all came out, these old fucking paedos are dead.
norcalsnoboredr | 21 points
Work to discredit the accusers? Look up Bruce Perry on Wikipedia and his work to discredit satanic ritualistic claims made by children...then google how his wife was satanically ritualistically murdered at Stanford University...its at every level but the psychologists are prominent
TruckMcBadass | 20 points
How was she abducted? Were there ever any lawsuits filed?
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TruckMcBadass | 14 points
And now that she's safe, why isn't she at least suing the holy hell out of her father?
nottheoretical | 18 points
Have you seen what are justice system is doing with this? Me either.
Tfish | 4 points
I also haven't seen anyone actually attempt to press any kind of charges against anyone either though.
nottheoretical | 4 points
Most people in her position never do. It's a lost cause because the court system is full of these people as well. Also you have a much better chance of living if you don't persue that avenue.
Another point i want to make is that people with DID are often dismissed without consideration of their testimony because the disorder is so misunderstood and purposely discredited.
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Bingo
upever | 19 points
And no one is going to held accountable. 100 dollars DOJ FBI Obama admin complicit in all of these.
fooreddit | 18 points
Haha, is this for real? Don't forget kids, Paul McCartney is dead and Bigfoot is real.
Milennial_Falcon | 1 points
This sub has been over-run with disinformation and people who don't understand that elites use disinformation as a weapon against us.
greatGoD67 | 17 points
I want off Hillarys wild ride
bruhtbh | 27 points
Wake up you fool, they're all involved. Hillary is just a pawn. There might not be a single president for decades that was part of this! Trump and the Clintons used to be best friends. This election was all lies to throw us off the trail. The evidence is fucking insurmountable!
RAPIN_BILLY | -8 points
wait, you mean hillary wasn't involved and trump is the ringleader? this is mindblowing, i totally regret voting for him. can you pm me some evidence? you just blew this whole thing wide open
bruhtbh | 13 points
No, they're all involved. This isn't about your love for Trump, it's about exposing the truth. Go call someone retarded in /r/politics, this transcends this pathetic election cycle and its two loser scumbag candidates. Wake up fools!
RAPIN_BILLY | -1 points
ima just call you retarded instead.
you think you're slick lol. it's incredibly transparent which is why everyone is downvoting you. so between you can i, you gotta step it up. i respect the art of the con, i respect some clever psyops. but you're neither of those. so read up a little, perfect your shit, and come back on a new name and give it another go. i got faith in you.
bruhtbh | 17 points
Haha typical Trump shill tactics. Call everyone trolls when you run out of arguments.
I'm being downvoted because this place is a hotbed of political shills. You're one of them.
Prove me wrong or shut up. Oh wait, you can't. Because there's no hard evidence supporting any of these people fucking kids.
All we have is circumstantial evidence which points wherever we want it to. My arguments are equally if not more valid than yours.
Nice try though!
Edit: lol one look through your post history shows you don't care about pizzagate at all. You're just anti-clinton, as if your name wasn't proof enough.
Get out of here loser, adults are talking.
RAPIN_BILLY | -5 points
see my previous message, you think you're clever but it's laughable. you've been entirely unable to provoke an emotional response in me, it's more like 'sigh, this idiot keeps responding to me.'
i'm serious, trolling is a art, you can't just pick it up from party narratives. you need to learn how to bite into your opponent, really let them know how much of a tool they are. you already know how much of a tool you are so i don't need to reinforce it. but you get my point.
bruhtbh | 16 points
That's your problem, you say I'm bad at trolling, which would be true if that's what I were doing.
Unfortunately this is a real situation, and you're distracting people from searching for the truth.
Stop pushing politics into this sub, it's not about Trump vs. Clinton!
Also, if you're so "yawn" above this, why do you keep trying to get a rise out of me?
You are the troll, and trolling had no place in a child rape investigation. I suggest you leave this sub if you only plan to troll its members.
subbookkeepper | 15 points
Ok in the interests of scepticism we now have evidence that her vagina is scarred. To be honest I was expecting more, a pentagram or goats head carving but it's definitely something there that isn't naturally occouring.
The obvious alternative explanation is that she did it to herself. Self mutilation is relatively common so it's not that outlandish a claim. Women self harm for attention and to back up lies all the time. But that explanation doesn't really hold up in light of her other claims. There is no upside or benefit for her to make these claims if he was lying. Especially since it's obvious that she's not being believed, continuing to maintain a story after it's failed doesn't make sense.
Personally I still don't believe this 100%, but it's getting pretty close to half and half.
I also want off this wild ride. I understand why Cypher wanted to be plugged back in.
WhiteOrca | 10 points
There doesn't need to be an upside or a benefit for her to lie. She doesn't need people to believe her story for her to lie. She could just lie because she feels like it.
CptYossarian | 6 points
There's also the very hard to realise point, now stay with me this is complicated, but what if liars don't like admitting they lied?
Woh
shillbert | 6 points
You missed the third option: she's delusional and really believes that someone else did it to her. I know that the term "delusional" is thrown around to discredit people, but it's still a real possibility to take into account, as an alternative to lying.
Master_Builder | 12 points
Oh great, another subreddit.
eisenschiml | 22 points
Yeah but the crazy in this one is at least entertaining. It's like a room full of 11 year olds who all just binged a season of x files and then ate pot brownies.
CptYossarian | -1 points
Seriously is this entire site going to become one insane right wing echo chamber for morons after another? It's the same idiots in every sub.
yoshi570 | 10 points
I'd love to take this post seriously, but you gotta understand how jumping to conclusions as soon as possible makes your evidence look weak.
punisher2404 | 9 points
And not surprisingly; This ALL goes beyond just the Clintons and that administration too, much of this came about during the Reagan and Bush years and being initiated about during the Ford administration (according to O'Brien 's Trance Formation of America book ) like with the Boys Town of Nebraska scandal (as mentioned in the Conspiracy of Silence banned documentary ) and that mutually involved Franklin Case child prostitution ring scandal that started as far back as the post-JFK coup d'etat of 1963 . The web spreads so deep. As if to be weaved into the very fabric of the structures of power that seek to control us.
punisher2404 | 3 points
Mary Kate and Ashley on PIZZA
Johannesboy1 | 8 points
If shes that mentally unstable she could very likely inflicted the wounds herself to get attention, sorry to say that
nottheoretical | 1 points
Her "mental instability" is DID. That is a disorder that only comes from being severely and repeatedly traumatized as a child.
BubblingMonkey | 6 points
Question, what are the possibilities that she is not mentally ill and she did it to herself.
I am all for her, but we also need to cover every topic that can discredit these claims. If we leave any kind of opening for people to dig a dagger into, it will destroy the whole being through that one hole in the armor of evidence.
antisoros | 4 points
at 11:17 in the video there is a 1-second frame with a raccoon... seems to be a purposefully imho
Sun-Mar-13 | 1 points
subliminal messaging?
justforthissubred | 6 points
Racoon is a symbol for abused kids. They call them Panda's or Raccoons because of the black they get around their eyes. Maybe relevant.
iceboob | 4 points
I get the sense that we're only 5% down the rabbit hole.
RAPIN_BILLY | 4 points
i really don't think we even have a foot in yet. it's gonna go deep, really really deep. this is like the biggest secret in the world behind ufos and shit.
gray_rain | 3 points
Adding to this, we have multiple, independent attestation that the Clintons are involved in child sex trafficking as well as the occult
Hey, can someone show me this? Trying to put all the pieces together can be a little time-consuming and a seemingly large task. Anything I can read or watch (preferably watch) that talks about this?
nottheoretical | 3 points
I'm honestly pretty disgusted at a lot of comments here. Granted this thread is being hit by lots of shills and that's par for the course, but this condescending, trivial laughing off of the whole phenomenon of ritual abuse is illogical and small minded.
It's arrogant indeed if you think you KNOW this doesn't happen so either it requires arrogance or the apathy necessary to keep making victims pay for trying to speak out.
It's amazing how much i see "if it was real people would talk" in the same breath as laughter in the face of someone who tries to.
Eirikr_N | 2 points
She also claims Pierre Trudeau (former prime minister of Canada, father of current) raped her.
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Fuck, I'd love that to be true and this all to blow up in their faces!
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tonyflint | 2 points
If any of these stories have any truth behind it isn't this fucked up sub just trivialising the issue? Pizzagate???! Really? Is the subject of children abuse a joke for you lot? I see many posters here shedding crocodile tears...
WalkedWithAZombie | 2 points
It wasn't called that for a joke, but because this is all steming from comet pin pong, the pizza place. People are realising now it probably shouldn't have been called that as you're correct with what you're saying, butbto move subreddits now would possibly be detrimental and just hindering progress.
pepperonis_for_eyes | 2 points
Where have we seen that shot of her vagina with the blue circle highlight before? I know for a fact it came up somewhere around here. Was it someone compiling it as info, or was it on James' insta or something?
Ferfrendongles | 2 points
Have you guys heard of the "papa kills babies" videos, and the resulting investigation? These kids talk about their teachers and leaders around the town fuck them and make them participate in satanic rituals, notably among them is eating babies. The kids recanted later, after testifying, though when a doctor examined their bodies/genitals to see if the abuse they told of was true, there was the same scarring that the kids said was there. There's hours of their interrogation on youtube.
tridentgum | 2 points
Either all of these people are crazy and lying and we are all imagining things and a child sliced her own vagina, OR the Clintons and their associates are indeed involved in child ritual abuse and trafficking.
No, it's not either-or - you guys discredit yourself with this type of simplicity.
OppermanReport | 2 points
Ya know about 2 hours before the Oct 9th debate, I received a phone call from someone that just got off the phone with Roger Stone. Stone and Trump wanted Cathy O'Briens phone #. I passed along the info. But personally I'm not sold on O'Briens story, I interviewed her two hours , spent about another 20 minutes off the air and I do not find them very credible. You can find my interview on Youtube or iTunes, Spreaker.
Wantfreespeechnow | 1 points
Shit. I'm going to need some mental prep work to watch that. Maybe in the morning with coffee.
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bashar_speaks | 1 points
http://ia800306.us.archive.org/21/items/TranceformationOfAmerica/tranceformation_america.pdf
MrKlowb | 1 points
In her 1995 Trance Formation of America publication, O'Brien states George H. W. Bush and Miguel de la Madrid used holograms to appear in altered forms, "Bush apparently activated a hologram of the lizard-like "alien" which provided the illusion of Bush transforming like a chameleon before my eyes. In retrospect, I understand that Bush had been painstakingly careful in positioning our seats in order that the hologram's effectiveness be maximized."
She's a nut, and has been for a long time. Being cut up isn't the only claim she makes. For decades she's claimed to have been in all sorts of secret government projects. Right, like they keep choosing her for everything.
"O'Brien also states that she has a recollection of child abuse — of her and her daughter — by international pedophile rings, drug barons and satanists, as part of a sex slave aspect to her "trauma based mind control programming." Individuals from United States, Canadian, Mexican and Saudi Arabian government officials to stars of the COUNTRY AND WESTERN music scene are among those she accuses of these crimes. According to scholar Michael Barkun, investigations into the story produced no credible evidence and numerous inconsistencies."
If she were talking about UFO's everyone would be treating her as they should. But now that HRC has this huge conspiracy thing going, even the most inconsequential of sources become wasteful sinks.
lady_pepe | 1 points
Another survivor is David Shurter, who wrote "Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor's Story"
wile_e_chicken | 1 points
There are several high-level names mentioned in the Cathy O'Brien videos that need more investigation. Just from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEBmEo4IA0&feature=youtu.be
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Gerald Ford
Ronald Reagan
Dick Cheney
Michael Aquino -- high priest of Temple of Set
George Bush -- gotta check back to see which one(s)
Robert C Byrd -- KKK **
Pierre Trudeau -- father of Justin Trudeau, current Prime Minister of Canada
** dead, was involved in the KKK. He is the guy in the picture kissing Hillary Clinton that has been on social media. She states he was her mentor. Bill Clinton gave the eulogy at his funeral.
Someoneoldbutnew | 1 points
I don't see how anyone could do that to themselves. It's not just scars, it's carving .
forthefreefood | 1 points
I believe Cathy is being mind controlled in a way, but not in the way she is describing. While she very well may have been abused as a child, her husband, Mark Phillips, then exploited those experiences and is the one who is planting these idea's in her head. And she's not the only one. Shaela Miller moved in with Cathy and Mark for a job and then eventually cut off contact with a family she was close with, and is now making widely inflammatory accusations against her family and past.
Mark is "ex" CIA with experience in mind control (don't have much info on this at the moment) and a google of his name will demonstrate he's not the best character.
[Here is an interview video with Mark Phillips, Cathy O'brien and Shaela Miller.] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nir9mOWkj5c) You can see how disjointed Shaela speaks now (according to friends and family she doesn't sound like herself at all anymore) and how Mark has to feed her details for her supposed own experiences.
Miller family response to the interview above
I believe both Cathy O'Brien and Shaela Miller need to get the hell away from Mark because he is the abuser in this situation.
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bruhtbh | -2 points
No wonder Trump hates Roseanne so much. She's onto the child sex ring that he, his buddies the Clintons, and many others are a part of. They tried to distract us with this divisive campaign. They didn't think we'd start connecting the dots. Roseanne was right all along.
tingleypeebles | 18 points
I thought he hated Rosie O'donnell, does he hate Roseanne too?
bruhtbh | -2 points
Absolutely, she's a fat woman. Google it!
GaryTrollman | 17 points
You're a fucking idiot
bruhtbh | -2 points
Ha! Found the fucking shill! Roseanne made sure to clarify that she didn't endorse Trump, and we know from multiple examples that Trump knows the truth that fat women are useless. Good lord you're dumb. Leave this sub if you don't want to help.
RAPIN_BILLY | 9 points
shills accusing people of being shills.
bruhtbh | 2 points
Find the part where I shilled for Clinton. Go ahead, I'll wait. I've been accusing her as much as anyone in this thing. Just because you love Trump so much doesn't mean you're not shilling for him. Wake up bro.
EyeCrush | 2 points
You're shilling for George Soros, claiming he is already beaten. It's rather hilarious and transparent, actually. It's REALLY obvious. To everyone here.
bruhtbh | -1 points
Oh really? Something untrue is obvious to everyone here? I'm shilling for Soros?
Soros is a scumbag and a criminal and needs to be imprisoned. The Clintons, Trump, Podesta, Putin, all of them are criminals. I shill for no one, I seek the truth.
Nice try though, Trump spammer!
BlacksmithSasquatch | 1 points
Go for a walk. I mean it. Clear the muddied waters of your mind.
bruhtbh | 1 points
Drain the swamp right? News flash, you're the new swamp.
BlacksmithSasquatch | 1 points
No. Just stop. If you splash in a puddle, soon the water becomes murky and you can't see through it. If you stand still, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and eventually the sediment settles and the water becomes clear. So it it it is with your mind.
Take a walk, and think of nothing but the next step, and wait for your thoughts (of things you can't control but for letting them upset you) ... wait for them to settle and wait for your mind to become clear.
It can't hurt and can only help.
psilocube | 2 points
What do you mean?
Bluemwa1 | 12 points
Ignore him. He's either a shill for CTR or just delusional. Look at his comment history.
bruhtbh | 4 points
They're all meant to distract us. The office of President is nothing but a sham owned by participants in a child sex ring. Read this sub and tell me I'm wrong.
Haplo781 | 6 points
Fuck off.
bruhtbh | 7 points
Classic silencing tactic. You run out of useful things to share so you just start cussing. You sound like a libtard.
justforthissubred | 1 points
nobody uses that word any more. you are a cuck. get with the program shill.
bruhtbh | 1 points
People use it all the time outside of the alt-right safe space. This isn't about your politics, it's about the truth. Leave if you're just here to smear Clinton. We don't need you to, she's doing it to herself because the facts will speak for themselves. You're pathetic, using child rape for political gain. Nobody uses cuck anymore either, the liberals started saying it.
Trump shill.
PublicDomain3 | 2 points
Not sure if I should downvote or...
bruhtbh | -1 points
I know, this thing is confusing. We have to maintain until Clinton, Trump, Podesta and that rest are behind bars where they can't hurt children.
RIGGED_ELECTION | 381 points | Nov 18 2016 00:31:58
That video what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck I want off this ride
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Findsyourshit | 164 points | Nov 18 2016 02:07:46
Can I be un-redpilled now?
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RIGGED_ELECTION | 229 points | Nov 18 2016 02:14:23
No. Meme magic is the collective consciousness. The world is awakening. We must cheerlead and spread the truth if we are to have any hope of peace. These are the same people that started WW2.
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Loud_Volume | 157 points | Nov 18 2016 04:22:10
Not sure if you're bringing up the collective consciousness on purpose but it's a real thing, and we are all connected, because we are all one and made from the same source energy.
This is all possible because we are all linked. By being connected energetically in such a way, news like this spreads around easier when it's hits a certain critical mass.
By us talking about this, in a connected, integrated way, it amplifies that output of consciousness and speeds up awareness.
This all may sound like Mumbo jumbo but please believe me when I say we are doing this for the collective good. Please stay together, don't let us become divided, and we can bring this whole thing down.
Meme magic is real. Collective consciousness is real. And we have the personal power to all help and do our part to make this happen and let the light shine in these places.
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cockseverywhere | 59 points | Nov 18 2016 07:23:59
I love that we are fucking casting spells with memes. Hahaha what a time to be alive.
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seamammals | 31 points | Nov 18 2016 13:31:17
What do you think a spell is? A spell is a symbolic abstraction with the purpose of effecting a change. Spells have always been memes.
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baconfall | 20 points | Nov 18 2016 14:02:23
Spell out the word spell. Speechcraft is magic. Its simply taken a new form in the new century.
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streezus | 15 points | Nov 18 2016 16:59:54
Exactly, language is a form of magic. That's why double speak is (or at least was) such an effective means of control.
I guess we've learned the counter spells.
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ThrowAway4God | 16 points | Nov 18 2016 17:50:29
Somebody cast an anti-biden spell, because those memes are driving me nuts.
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streezus | 10 points | Nov 18 2016 17:53:26
Memes in the wrong hands often backfire.
My suggestion for making those Biden memes go away is to take them to the extreme and either make them obviously or insidiously malicious. Co-opt and over-saturate the meme taken from another turn or angle and people will lose interest fast.
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namefaceguy | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:39:56
They want him for the next president. It's clear after all the memes came out immediately.
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punisher2404 | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 23:19:43
It still works on much of the people. Wich is why news organizations have so much psychological control over the formation of mass-public-thought. Which is why we must create and offer the solutions to those who may not know that what they put in them is what becomes of them.
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seamammals | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 05:34:48
Inadvertent troll takeover, lol
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LewdRudeJude | 13 points | Nov 18 2016 17:21:06
How do you think Trump won the election? The Great Meme War of 2016 was no joke.
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MKULTRAMONARCHMOUSE | 4 points | Nov 18 2016 22:37:48
Look what magic frog did for The Donald, if he can do that...... Anything is possible.
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Tacsol5 | 44 points | Nov 18 2016 04:32:37
I believe you man!
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RIGGED_ELECTION | 30 points | Nov 18 2016 04:43:00
Amen brother! Preach that truth! 🔥🔥🔥
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djklbd | 20 points | Nov 18 2016 06:21:27
YES!
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PixelBot | 15 points | Nov 18 2016 07:48:37
Good work Loud_Volume.
Keep inspiring!
There are more of them against us than ever, but we still outnumber them.
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witch_doctor1 | 15 points | Nov 18 2016 15:33:16
"This all may sound like Mumbo jumbo"
I know right? I used to think any talk of collective consciousness was new agey weirdness, however; the snow monkey study is pretty hard to refute...have you seen that one? Basically, snow monkeys in Japan figured out how to use tools or something, and then snow monkeys on neighboring islands that had no physical contact with the first group started mirroring the behavior.
So, there is something to it....and I get what you are saying. It seems like this (pizzagate) may be hitting critical mass?
Another esoteric thought I have about all of this, is that any one instance is easily enough dismissed...but when you start looking at all of the pedo, ritual abuse and human trafficking scandals that have occurred in the recent past on every continent, you hear shocking similar stories from children and adult survivors. That is a whole lot of smoke with no fire.
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bookofbooks | 10 points | Nov 18 2016 18:23:53
You're repeating the Hundredth monkey effect story, which seems to grow on each retelling. It's not actually something that ever happened though.
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witch_doctor1 | 4 points | Nov 18 2016 18:53:19
I'm firing off a nastygram to George Noory.
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Kozio_ | 10 points | Nov 18 2016 14:05:21
Quantum theory gets pretty lit
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streezus | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 16:58:49
This is pretty much my take away from when FBI Anon said he thought meme magic was confirmation bias, that confirmation bias is real, and can be a magically powerful tool.
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PanickedPaladin | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 10:57:43
See, I can see how people would arrive at this conclusion, but the missing link people aren't aware of is that it's not the collective consciousness that's causing this, it's God. If the collective consciousness was real, we'd be being influenced by the thought patterns of the massive populations in China and India. But if you look at all these events as dominoes falling one after another, each revelation priming us for another reveal, it's very easy to see how intentional this pattern of events is. God is playing 47D chess here in order to help us and bring us closer to Him, and we're seeing the results.
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TeijiSenpai | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 13:55:01
That's exactly what Loud_Volume just said.
Collective consciousness = God. Source = God, the illusion of individuality is simply that, as we are all 'children of God', I.E an expression of Source energy, I.E subjects of the collective consciousness, which is God.
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olivelilly | 6 points | Nov 18 2016 11:30:21
Christian here, I agree! To God be the Glory.
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pby1000 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 21:57:14
Funny you should mention "collective consciousness". I am currently reading Illuminati: The Cult that Hijacked the World. They pdf is available online for free.
http://www.stopthecrime.net/Henry-Makow---Illuminati----(2008).PDF
The author discussed an egregore. According to Wikipedia, "egregore" is an occult concept representing a "thought form" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme." Pg. 59.
Is the egregore Lucifer, who is worshiped by the super rich?
I agree with you. We need to stick together. The fight is not Left vs. Right or Democrat vs. Conservative. The fight it the super rich vs. everybody else. Trump is not super rich by these standards. Neither is Bill Gates. If Bill Gates was among the super rich, then he would not be listed in Forbes among the world's wealthiest. The world's wealthiest remain behind the scenes so it is more difficult to attack them.
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Loud_Volume | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 22:56:19
Yep exactly! Thanks for the link I will be sure to check it out tonight
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pby1000 | 2 points | Nov 18 2016 23:01:16
No problem. I think more people need to be made aware of what we are up against. Instead of fighting each other, we need to fight the real threat.
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RikaMX | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 17:21:28
But what doesn't?
I believe man.
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blieveit | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 19:54:49
deepak?
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ManderinDuck | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 17:57:27
What do you mean by the same people that started WW2?
Are history books false?
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catsRawesome123 | 7 points | Nov 18 2016 04:01:40
Same. Can I?
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no1113 | 6 points | Nov 18 2016 18:13:01
You should never want to be un-red pilled. Truth, no matter how disturbing, is always, always better than untruth.
The perpetuation of lies is what's responsible for what happen to people like O'Brien in the first place.
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YottaWatts91 | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 19:38:33
Once you go down the rabbit hole.
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You can never go back.
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Haplo781 | 69 points | Nov 18 2016 03:22:50
Blue link is staying blue.
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toxeia | 40 points | Nov 18 2016 09:10:52
I just watched it myself. 9:15 is where to start.
I think we owe it to this woman to look. It's soul crushing, but how fucking brave to come forward with it. Shit, to have someone get in there with a telescopic lens to take close up pictures and then be put in the film itself.
I hate to say it, but man up. This is the kind of evil that you need to see in order to never allow yourself to become complacent or allow it to occur again.
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TheSilentHedges | 36 points | Nov 18 2016 05:12:37
Right there with ya. I'll take people's word for it. This seems to be one of those "cannot unsee" things that I like to avoid altogether.
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snapbakboii | 15 points | Nov 18 2016 05:51:27
Not that bad. Its like inside of it
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BonEchoCanuck | 5 points | Nov 18 2016 10:48:57
I'll have what he's having
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Rakensen | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 11:03:37
Honestly wasn't bad at all. More informative than anything.
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Clovado | 12 points | Nov 18 2016 05:22:21
Hang in there man, we are here for you.
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RIGGED_ELECTION | 13 points | Nov 18 2016 05:28:35
Thank you for the kind words, friend.
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LordPubes | 8 points | Nov 18 2016 09:15:45
10:04 forget cuts, looks like they dropped a fragmentation grenade in that hole.
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Digitalabia | 4 points | Nov 19 2016 05:45:02
/r/highmileageholes
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MKULTRAMONARCHMOUSE | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 22:47:27
What pissed me off the most was the fact that they carved a face into her.... What kind of sick fuck takes the time to carve a face... Then Hillary getting turned on by it.. We are dealing with the worst of humanity with these creatures and to think they have held the highest positions in government makes it all the more deplorable. If there is a hell I hope every single one of them reach the depths of it. On their death bed, I hope they see visions of what is going to happen to them and feel the pain and wrath of their actions.
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MySacredHonor | 0 points | Nov 18 2016 23:19:12
100% agree with everything you said. As Christians we are taught to pray for the sinner to repent... but these people are so far gone that it seems prayers should go to other people. May they rot in hell.
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tendieizdanite | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 19:18:05
The question I have of this kind of stuff, and I was unable to watch it all so I may have missed some key things, is "why?"
Why would someone do that to a person, or even an animal for that matter? A ritualized carving on the genitals of a girl makes no sense.
There are markings humans use on animals, such as branding, but that makes sense because the brand is an identifier on livestock. I "get" that - but why would someone do this stuff to that woman's genitals?
I don't get it. At all. That's not a humble brag. It's not a "oh, look at me! I'm not a sexual deviant!!!"
I'm truly confused.
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RIGGED_ELECTION | 3 points | Nov 18 2016 19:26:39
They break people's ability to think for themselves, to critically analyze the situation, the last bastion of "true" freedom. It is a form of mind control. They threaten anyone who wants to come forward and speak the truth. They want you to believe they are all powerful and can just kidnap you and your family at any given moment and get away with it.
It is all based on childhood torture and research into mind control stemming from Freudian Psychoanalytics, the Frankfurt School, Tavistock, and the globalist elite cabal.
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Nogrim5 | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 10:03:11
i've never hoped i was so wrong about something than this paedophilia ring shit, we all blew off Ike when he brought this shit up, and i am positive now its just because we didn't want it to be true.
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