ricolah | 519 points | Nov 16 2016 18:04:19

IT security company created by Bill Havre, connected to Rachel Chandler, lists cryptic code on bottom of webside www.z-sec.io. 4chan anon cracks it and finds 'MISSING BRITISH GIRL MADELEINE MCCANN PORTUGAL TWO ZERO ZERO SEVEN'

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/98730823#p98753389

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 86 points | Nov 16 2016 18:53:09

It got the name , location and YEAR all spot on correct. What are the fucking odds of that?

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MirrorMirrorRTJ | 37 points | Nov 16 2016 19:27:41

0 are the odds

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ExistentialEnso | 28 points | Nov 17 2016 00:10:43

It would be 0 if it was a decryption, but this is gematria, a weird numerology thing that assigns different values to each letter.

The code and the sentence in the post's title both happen to add up to 698. Along with an infinite combination of other sentences, including others that likely support our case.

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PatrioticDeplo | 8 points | Nov 17 2016 01:27:24

Occams razor says the kidnapping was the message and everything else is static.

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ExistentialEnso | 14 points | Nov 17 2016 01:31:36

No, Occam's Razor says that everything gematria-related was static and that this is something crypto-related, since the latter is used extremely frequently in the intel community and the former is not.

You realize gematria is literally just doing things like a = 1, b = 2, c = 3, adding the sum of a whole sentence/phrase, and looking for things with the same number, right?

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flaminghotbutthole | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:59:21

ELI5 someone please? I'm a total moron as far as this stuff is concerned.

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ExistentialEnso | 6 points | Nov 17 2016 02:06:59

Gematria is merely a system that assigns every letter a number. Adding up these individual numbers will give you a total. That is the gematria number.

The random string of letters at the bottom of z-sec.io and "Missing British Girl Madeline McCann Portugal Two Zero Zero Seven" both add up to a total of 698.

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BurgerLaowai | 6 points | Nov 17 2016 04:10:56

BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE

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lovedisco | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:56:18

it's still a valid cypher

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ExistentialEnso | 13 points | Nov 17 2016 02:02:57

Technically, yes, but one with an infinite number of possible ways to decode it. Gematria is meaningless. Here's one /r/conspiracy found a few months ago that is based off of the word count of one of the emails: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4s5pq9/turns_out_if_you_look_up_the_gematria_of_the/

You can find gematria connections in everything if you try hard enough.

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lovedisco | 0 points | Nov 17 2016 02:22:59

I see what you're saying and i do too .

i think it was the chances of it leading to that specific of an article that makes it noteworthy

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Dogsnameischarlie | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 02:37:37

True. BUT - there wasn't anything fucked up about the sentence. it worked perfectly, in fact.

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ExistentialEnso | 10 points | Nov 17 2016 02:40:31

I'm sure you could find plenty of other phrases that work "perfectly" and others that completely contradict us too.

A few months ago, /r/conspiracy found that 2322 (the number of words in a specific Comey email) is both "Help Me, Hillary Clinton Is Holding My Family Hostage" and "Barrack Hussein Obama The Antichrist of Revelation."

...along with millions of other phrases that mean literally nothing in context.

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wookin_pa_nub2 | 10 points | Nov 17 2016 03:11:45

How could anyone possibly support this gematria nonsense? When sum all the letters in a sentence together you throw out almost ALL the information in the sentence: it goes from like 168 bits down to just 10. There are more possible sentences that match it than stars in the visible universe. People should learn a little bit about information theory and bayes theorem before even trying to form conclusions.

Edit: what I said is true for strings of approximately that length, and sentences of english words will have less entropy, but the end effect is roughly the same.

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BurgerLaowai | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 04:13:21

Yeah. I don't buy this gemitria crap.

I'd rather see real detective work being done.

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Milennial_Falcon | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 04:33:56

How could anyone possibly support this gematria nonsense?

Lack of critical thinking and naivete regarding disinformation.

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Dogsnameischarlie | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 02:44:29

haha ok you're maybe right.

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PatrioticDeplo | 0 points | Nov 17 2016 02:27:57

Quite obviously.

Are you denying the implausibility the code in gematria=Madeleine McCann?

CTR is obvious.

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ExistentialEnso | 7 points | Nov 17 2016 02:34:32

I'm denying the plausibility, not the implausibility, but I think that's what you meant anyway.

I'm a supporter of Pizzagate but a moderate who worries that some of this more out there shit will just get us written off as internet loons. I figured being in this position would just make it a matter of time before I was accused of being a shill, when really my concern is just that stuff like gematria always makes these theories the laughingstock of the uninitiated.

The fact that the police sketches look uncannily like the Podesta brothers is a fantastic piece of evidence that makes the McCann lead absolutely worth exploring, but you can use gematria to make it look like anything is connected.

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PatrioticDeplo | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:32:31

All leads must be followed. All stones left unturned.

Why do you care what the media portrays us as? Why do you suddenly care about saving face and treading lightly?

Destroy them. End of story.

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ExistentialEnso | 7 points | Nov 17 2016 03:40:12

This isn't really a "lead," though. A given number will yield an infinite number of gematria sentences. I saw a 4chan thread since your last comment where someone had figured out several other seemingly pro-Pizzagate messages with the same gematria.

A few months ago, /r/conspiracy used the number of words in a Comey email to come up with both "Help Me, Hillary Clinton Is Holding My Family Hostage" and "Barrack Hussein Obama The Antichrist of Revelation."

I haven't said anything about "treading lightly," and I'm not sure why you think I am advocating that position. I think we should be pushing and pushing hard. I just said this particular finding is meaningless.

And the less ridiculous we look to outsiders, the more people that will join our cause, and the more likely we will see some resolution to this.

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TheFlashFrame | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 06:23:35

There was a similar use of gematria when Comey finished the first investigation into Hillary and concluded there that she should not be indicted. Some information from the press release was dumped into the gematria website and the line that returned was something along the lines of "Hillary Clinton is holding my family hostage. Please help."

Unfortunately there were also things in there like "Barack Hussein Obama is the anti Christ" that were strangely specific but also obviously not the intended message. Ultimately the whole thing was written off as coincidental.

The difference here is that it accurately states the nationality, name, location and date of the girl's disappearance... Still, I'm bothered by the fact that because of the nature of gematria, we'll never be able to prove that this message is deliberate.

That fucking sucks. This could have totally be on purpose, but because it's such a shit method of decryption, well never know for sure.

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ExistentialEnso | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 06:32:43

The difference here is that it accurately states the nationality, name, location and date of the girl's disappearance

Gematrix builds up their database by people previously searching these sentences. They're not doing number crunching to determine every possible sentence each time. All this shows is that someone, at some point previously, was using their site to calculate the gematria numbers of various McCann-related sentences. So it's no surprise that those details were correct.

Also, small nitpicky detail, but her nationality is British. She was abducted in Portugal.

I'm also familiar of the claims Comey was using gematria, which was based, mind you, off of a fucking word count of a single email, not "information from the press release." The wildly different messages they came up with just illustrates how you can use gematria to connect anything .

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TheFlashFrame | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 08:17:32

Gematrix builds up their database by people previously searching these sentences.

Ahhh, makes sense. Yep, so in other words, this is utterly worthless garbage lol.

Also, small nitpicky detail, but her nationality is British. She was abducted in Portugal.

Yeah, I know. The sentence is "'MISSING BRITISH GIRL MADELEINE MCCANN PORTUGAL TWO ZERO ZERO SEVEN'" When I said nationality, I was referring to the British part. When I said location, I was referring to the Portugal part.

Also, "information from the press release" was in reference to data from the press release, as in, word count lol. I wasn't trying to oversell it. I'm fully aware how useless this decryption method is.

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RealGsDontSleep | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 18:10:40

Got a link interesting

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trumpsPEPEinMELANIA | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 13:25:05

Actually the chance is about the same as evolution happening

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[deleted] | 22 points | Nov 16 2016 20:54:15

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 13 points | Nov 16 2016 20:58:16

Why would a random IT security company have an FAQ?

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zethrowtf | 14 points | Nov 16 2016 21:08:29

Directly implying involvement with an open investigation..

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PatrioticDeplo | 18 points | Nov 16 2016 21:49:14

Hijacking to ask something.

So what are the other phrases that are on that list? There are some other strange ones. Talks about the devil, Amon Ra ruling the world, the devil is a loser, etc.

He has a code on his website, that when deciphered, creates these phrases? Is that correct?

I don't know what's going on, but I feel a pit of sadness in my stomach for this girl, but an excited feeling of justice in my heart. We need to make sure we expose the fucks. We must do everything in our power to make sure they are exposed, captured, and punished accordingly. These demons should not be walking the earth.

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zethrowtf | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 21:57:47

I'm trying to find out how easily it is to be reversed. Or if the McCann message was it's intended use, how they went about it creating it. That message could be intended to be one of the strange ones you're referring to, but the McCann message seems more likely/relevant/intended.

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PatrioticDeplo | 10 points | Nov 16 2016 22:15:18

From what little I know about gematria, it's a very precise practice and the people who work in it are highly skilled individuals.

Is it possible that it is meant to have MULTIPLE meanings? Obviously the McCann message sticks out like a sore thumb. It's almost undeniable that it is related in some way. Could this be relaying a message to multiple individuals? One thing that sticks out is that there are so many other possibilities that have the same value and appear to have some sort of meaning or intended phrase. Could it be possible that the owner of the website stumbled across this shit and left a code for the world to see?

The FBI has been on this case for a while now. Is it possible that they have been creating fake leads to throw people off course? They could have created that website 6 months ago when they noticed people were on their heels. At the same time, why would they do this....

Keep digging guys. This has to be one of the biggest collective investigations in history.

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zethrowtf | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:29:02

It's possible to have multiple meanings but it plays into our brains finding what they want to see/find.i know little about gematria and if it's even known to be credible. In theory everything we find could be a fake lead. Theres a whole documentary about a guy who had been fed fake leads by govt either to distract or fuck with him when trying to find out ET information.

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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 00:48:56

The fbi, at least rhe majority of the line level guys are not our enemy.

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PatrioticDeplo | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:15:27

We don't necessarily know that. We think/hope/believe that.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 21:09:34

Or there's more code in the FAQ. Or as others have suggested, it's actually a fucking menu.

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[deleted] | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 21:12:49

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PatrioticDeplo | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 22:46:15

I wonder if that "coupon" can be used for the "pizza" website that Stratfor set up.

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zethrowtf | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:53:38

I was wrong about where the coupon info came from so I've deleted that, and am trying to find a source for said coupon.

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:46:50

The coupon ref. Was using the same code decyphered in a different way (I think).

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PatrioticDeplo | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:56:15

I took the liberty of decoding it using the "pigpen" or "Masonic" cipher that someone mentioned. picumqctlmggqoiiuuqmihimwibfmthqvcuqczqvdjmdtugmoo Didn't find anything of significance, but all I did was plug it into gematrix. Maybe someone with a more intimate knowledge of the subject can take a look.

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 00:03:53

Yea same, nothing of significance.. I know I created the McCann one with success last night. The strings are so long and I don't fully understand either.

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Awilen | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 23:04:29

The svg file is named "helloFriend". It was meant to be found. For what purpose ? No idea. Who's friend with a security company ? Another IT-sec guy ?

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megatromax | -2 points | Nov 16 2016 21:16:12

lol!!!!! hard to believe this is not a troll.

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Bizzibodi | 21 points | Nov 17 2016 00:39:13

It Fake

...the site was changed during the last week.

Check out the Yahoo Search Cache of the page.

In the page source "hellofriend.svg" doesnt exist.

Firefox is also gives a warning and is reported as a "forgery".

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oh--long--johnson | 14 points | Nov 17 2016 02:35:35

100% fake. They used text "nqeuhpeyfhmmplqquupgqoqhtqckhyopweupexpwgbhgyumhll"

But if you simply go to this page, you can see even the first letter is wrong.

http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/pigpen.html

Fucking chans man.

Correct decoded sequence is: PICUMQCTLMGGQOIIUUQDIHIMWIBFMTHQVCUQCZQVDJMDTUGMOO

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beatricejensen | 5 points | Nov 17 2016 10:53:35

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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mac_question | 9 points | Nov 17 2016 02:23:12

"hellofriend.svg"

Calling card of a troll. Was it signed by fsociety?

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Milennial_Falcon | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 04:30:11

The odds are pretty good considering there are zillions of sentences that could add up to 698 in gematria. You could do the same thing with other sentences about Madeleine McCann in Portuagal in 2007 and still get the same result. The only reason that sentence is at the top is from people googling it in the wake up pizzagate (the results are ranked by google searches). Notice it has already skyrocketed again due to this very thread. This crap is disinformation to make us look like crazies and distract us.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:32:57

I'm all for healthy skepticism and I think the whole simply cipher thing is an easier answer or just more false leading, but don't be ridiculous to suggest that result out of the millions of possible other entries would come up THE FIRST TIME we tried without SOMETHING being preplanned here.

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Milennial_Falcon | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:39:14

Someone in this thread posted that the page with the cipher is a forgery. So yes, PLANNED, but by whom? Perhaps someone planned it to continue to muddy the waters in this sub and bring more non-critical thinkers into the fold?

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IVoidbringer | 0 points | Nov 17 2016 08:34:41

Im increasingly of the opinion this entire thing is yet another /pol/ engineered ruse to make people look stupid, like normalising facism, getting pepe designated a hate symbol and electing trump

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Milennial_Falcon | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 14:29:57

There's too much evidence surrounding Comet Ping Pong, the Clintons, etc, for it to be a hoax. There are definitely shills trying to used hoaxes and other disinformation to throw us off track and make us look crazy/stupid, though.

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Dogsnameischarlie | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 21:48:13

Plus nationality

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Dusty1776 | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 22:08:34

Same odds as Donald Trump being elected to drain the swamp of corruption that been going on for thousands of years.

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King0fThoseWhoKnow | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:25:59

What do you mean "it"? Where was this found? What is it? Im out of the loop. Why is it surprising that the nationality and year and name are all correct?

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TheRealSusan | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:58:33

It: information technology

You wouldn't expect a hidden message about an abductee, much less a message verified in triplicate (hence not a coincidence)

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Milennial_Falcon | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 14:55:46

It's a substitution cipher and the correct substitution is not a random string of letters that was cherry-picked to add up to 698. The decoded message is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill."

https://meinwords.wordpress.com/2016/11/17/z-sec-io-footer-is-a-substitution-cipher-not-a-gematria/

This gematria shit is either or a troll or disinformation. Either way, it's nonsense.

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TheShadowGovernment | 41 points | Nov 16 2016 19:13:38

If this is legit, it needs to be stickied. WTF IS GOING ON?

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zethrowtf | 23 points | Nov 16 2016 19:33:25

This started it.

But what was the connection to the website. I got on and saw them working on that. Does anyone know HOW they got to the website that lead to this being discovered??

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 37 points | Nov 16 2016 19:36:45

Bill Havre is the Registering Agent for this IT company's DC branch, a random IT security company from Georgia with no apparent actual business -- just a shell with a weird cryptic code at the bottom of their page. Havre has registered literally thousands of companies but we got drawn to him because he registered Midland Agency and Casting, run by Rachel Chandler (frequent Lolita Express flier).

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zethrowtf | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:38:00

And this is a website from a company that he owns correct?

*Edit

If so is there any pictures of his companies he owns? Just useful for an infograph linking all of this to the Mccann case.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:39:17

The website is owned by this Brodie character, but his DC branch was registered by Havre

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zethrowtf | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 19:42:21

Sorry, I'm not in front of a computer to do this research effectively myself.

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RazsterOxzine | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 21:40:03

Here is the link to the image from the security site: https://www.z-sec.io/img/helloFriend.svg

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beatricejensen | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 10:53:51

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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RazsterOxzine | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 16:09:34

So this isn't a message about them pedo'in and eating babies? Well shucks, hopes and dreams dashed.

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beatricejensen | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 23:13:12

Hopes? Lol. Don't hope for such things.

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RazsterOxzine | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 03:01:28

Sarcasm my good friend. Works wonders on what ails you.

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beatricejensen | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 10:53:55

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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[deleted] | 26 points | Nov 16 2016 19:46:27

[deleted]

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RazsterOxzine | 23 points | Nov 16 2016 21:36:37

But Alice, the rabbit hole continues further. This is just the start.

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MirrorMirrorRTJ | 23 points | Nov 16 2016 18:56:22

What in the actual fuck

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Scolopendra_Heros | 17 points | Nov 16 2016 19:39:29

Tug enough of the threads and eventually the web will unravel. Keep digging.

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2-DRY-4-2-LONG | 17 points | Nov 16 2016 19:44:10

Their FAQ:

Q: What's with the strange symbols at the bottom of the page?

A: What strange symbols?

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RazsterOxzine | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 21:41:48

Hello Friend: https://www.z-sec.io/img/helloFriend.svg

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RIGGED_ELECTION | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:37:34

How the shit does gematria work on this? I need to learn how to do this stuff...

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zethrowtf | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:42:06

Summary

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IVoidbringer | 0 points | Nov 17 2016 08:36:10

You guys have been rused.

"Hellofriend" is a Mr. Robot reference

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RazsterOxzine | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 16:12:58

Bamboozled, hoodwinked, swindled, duped, beguile, hanky-panky, diddled, taken for a ride, played for a sucker?

Well I don't know about that, the internet never lies.

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historyinthemakingg | 13 points | Nov 16 2016 18:44:13

Holy shit

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ricolah | 13 points | Nov 16 2016 19:05:06

POLICE SKETCH OF HER ABDUCTORS

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SerDuncanTheAverage | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 02:06:47

Who are the real people in that picture?

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staomeel | 5 points | Nov 17 2016 04:25:10

John and Tony Podesta.

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cheers_grills | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:12:48

Not sure about the guy on the right, but the guy on the left is Podesta.

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SerDuncanTheAverage | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:17:02

Thanks

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the_sharpest_knife | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 02:40:59

http://www.mintpressnews.com/abby-martin-exposes-hillary-clinton-chair-john-podesta/222048/

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throwaway0011123 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 05:06:31

John Podesta is on the left and Tony Podesta, his brother, on the right

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beiherhund | -8 points | Nov 16 2016 19:35:51

Abductor . The sketch was based on witness testimony of the same man.

edit: if you're going to downvote me, at least show me the evidence I'm wrong.

Police have issued two efits that they believe are descriptions of the same man.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/14/british-detectives-efits-madeleine-mccann-suspect

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 27 points | Nov 16 2016 19:37:41

Except the police later rescinded that statement and said it was two men, the same man theory came from a mistranslation they had with the Portuguese police.

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beiherhund | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:42:51

Link? The only "evidence" I've been presented for this argument is a statement saying they're now looking for more than one person, I've never seen anything saying the sketch was originally based on more than one person.

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BadAgent1 | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:59:40

Source?

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zethrowtf | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 20:09:40

Do you have anything to back it up? I know they were looking for a few different people with suspected ties, I just haven't seen anywhere that the info that it's the same person. If it can be verified that you're correct it needs to be fixed in the infographics, as well as looked at in a different light.

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beiherhund | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 21:07:39

Police have issued two efits that they believe are descriptions of the same man.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/14/british-detectives-efits-madeleine-mccann-suspect

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zethrowtf | 0 points | Nov 16 2016 22:03:41

So the potential link between the brothers is a coincidence.. while it could be either one. It's not both. That changes the importance of the efits and their(podesta) connection to this. Leads stemming from that should be viewed with much more speculation..

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beiherhund | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 23:19:17

Yeah the thing is what I've said above is not new, lots of people around here have said it before but people still continue to perpetuate the idea that it's sketches of two different people.

I'm open to the idea that police have since revised their statement to say that the sketches are based on two eye witness testimonies, in which case it could be different people, but I've yet to see evidence of this.

And just look how many downvotes I've gotten above...

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zethrowtf | 0 points | Nov 16 2016 23:37:43

XD I upvoted if it counts for anything. Also will link to what you've provided to anything more I see of that. Thanks for info

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IApproveThisMessage_ | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:51:44

That mole above Tony's eye is strange. Wrong eye but same location.

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FrogtoadWhisperer | 12 points | Nov 16 2016 19:00:02

What is this IT companies tie in with all this or who is Bill Havre? Im not caught up to speed over the past 24 hours

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 25 points | Nov 16 2016 19:05:23

Bill Havre is the Registering Agent for this IT company's DC branch, a random IT security company from Georgia with no apparent actual business -- just a shell with a weird cryptic code at the bottom of their page. Havre has registered literally thousands of companies but we got drawn to him because he registered Midland Agency and Casting, run by Rachel Chandler (frequent Lolita Express flier).

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FrogtoadWhisperer | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 19:09:27

Thank you!

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TheMoonstar74 | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 20:51:34

I keep seeing references to lots of these companies being shells, has anyone cross referenced some of these to the Panama papers?

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 20:57:26

4chan just did actually, https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/20132925

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cheers_grills | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:13:29

So my question is, why would they show it on their website?

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:17:48

I've explained this about ten times but sure, I'll do it again.

It's a very random, very difficult to find website unless you know what you're looking for. Then, it's even harder to recognize the message below, which can be confirmed only by downloading it and getting the "hellofriend.svg". Then you see it's legitimate, you translate it, run it through and when you get the MCCANN result you know the source is not compromised. That's probably the end of this chain, and there's a signal either told in the instructions or it's somewhere we're not able to decode in the webpage.

Either way, the whole idea is that this is a DEAD DROP . It's a coded message, probably just saying "you're on the right way". If that code were to come back either only gibberish or return a result that was NOT Mccan then they'd know it was compromised or just moved somewhere else.

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cheers_grills | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:21:59

Okay, it was made to show that we are following the patern, but can explain the rest in normie-friendly language?

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:27:29

It's just espionage man. You hide in plain sight, we don't know all the signal phrases they use. Here's a totally baseless idea of how you can end up here.

See Besta Pizza has the symbol, know that the code to identify as a pedo is chicken lover. Call up Besta Pizza, say you'd like to order a large Chicken lover pizza (not something you would order normally, right?). The guy says hang on, takes your information then mails you instructions including the cipher and how to find the deaddrop.

This is textbook espionage and is fraught with hidden angles and missing links.

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cheers_grills | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:31:23

In this case, they propably reorganised already and are using places owned by people not connected to those mentioned in any way (or at least hidden). I hope FBI or autists find the connection, so they don't find dead end.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:33:35

They're archiving fast as they can, we have to keep the pressure up on them though because they can't catch it all.

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IVoidbringer | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 08:38:44

Lmao your face when all of what you just said is bullshit.

The whole thing was fabricated by some channer to make /r/pizzagaters look fucking retarded.

Of course the thing you found is called "hellofriend" dot whatever, thats a reference to critically admired TV Show Mr Robot, famous for its cryptographic easter eggs. I would literally bet reddit gold the person who cracked this website and inserted this bullshit meaningless stuff is actually reading this and laughing at you so hard right now

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zethrowtf | 12 points | Nov 16 2016 19:31:00

From what I saw yesterday.. did they make any progress on the hellofriends.svg page? I know the code on the page was ciphered and it read "mention 'cant remember' for discount". I fell asleep after they determined that to be true. So I'm wondering if it lead anywhere else besides that? Like webpage or what not.

I know they started looking into the people behind said website, and it linked to a guy in Georga and DC, but I'm not sure anything beyond that. Fell asleep after the spiderman memes ha.

Here's image op was describing, not sure if it was linked outside of 4chn

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:32:52

Fell asleep after the spiderman memes ha

Those spidey memes were the strongest evidence we started getting close.

Who would buy a 4chan pass to spideybomb this thread?

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zethrowtf | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 19:35:07

Oh I know.. I got excited like damn someone somewhere is trying to derail this shit.. or at least make the case that what's presented isn't credible. Wish they would have gone with Batman memes tho..

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Eduel80 | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 21:53:17

https://www.z-sec.io/img/helloFriend.svg

How are they tying this to the 698 tho? Where did that come from?

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zethrowtf | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:10:38

I thought it was two separate codes, I now think it is the same picture as the one used to create the 698. I think 698 comes from converting all the letters obtained when deciphered into numbers, and then adding or obtaining their "value".

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Tok-A-Mak | 12 points | Nov 16 2016 23:15:04

Exactly.. A=1, B=2, C=3... ..Z=26. You take "nqeuhpeyfhmmplqquupgqoqhtqckhyopweupexpwgbhgyumhll" and add it all up = 698.

Just like all the other sentences on that screenshot and over 9000 random sentences with similar length. It doesn't mean anything and you could come up with many sentences of similar length about whatever you choose to also yield 698 with this method. People are being trolled by 4chan and don't understand what this is (also see my other comment in this thread for details about the other cipher etc). ~~I'm actually inclined to *ask /r/theydidthemath about the chances of a match based on letter frequencies in english sentences, but i don't really know how to formulate the question in a meaningful way.~~

Edit: link was broken on some mobile clients. Here's the thread (doesn't say much though): https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/5dcs5o/request_based_on_letter_frequencies_what_are_the/

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ADirtySoutherner | 4 points | Nov 17 2016 00:31:00

Fuck off, shill. /s

I love how you got downvoted for literally just explaining how gematria works. This sub, man....

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Tok-A-Mak | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 00:32:11

:)

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beatricejensen | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 10:50:32

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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Tok-A-Mak | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 10:57:33

Well that makes sense. Thanks for posting the solution.

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 17:38:23

Isn't there another way to think about this (admittedly simple but a bit intuitive to get an approximation). The lowest total would be 50 (all letter A). The highest total would be 1300 (all z). The delta is 1250, meaning that the chance of a randomly constructed 50-letter phrase having a match is 1 in 1250, which is .08%? Since the language is not randomly constructed (lower probabilities of letters Q, X, Z...), the universe of possible phrases is actually much, much smaller. You could apply the letter probability to quickly refine (I am not bothering), which would quickly bring the chance of a likely collision to something over 1%. Thoughts? As to opinion of what to think of the link to https://www.z-sec.io/ and possible relevance, I think it is premature to judge. Godspeed to those on the hunt for truth and justice!

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Tok-A-Mak | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:24:58

That logic makes sense to me*. I also guess it would be somewhere around 2%. Plus there are many more sentences that could be constructed with the same or a similar message or with the exact opposite meaning or whatever.

Edit: *i think you would need the average, not the delta

About z-sec io. Yesterday their team appeared in this sub to give an AMA where they answered questions and explained what the message was (an xkcd reference) and how it can be decoded. They didn't know anything about gematria of course, why would they. Any word or sentence can be converted into a number and then be compared to other words and sentences that calculate to the same number when the same method is applied to it. Doing this had a good reason in languages with letters that were also used as numbers depending on context. Roman numbers would be a bad example for this, because you can easily see that MCCCXXXVII wouldn't actually be a word. Appart from that, modern gematria is mostly used for occult-showerthoughting and for half-life-3-confirming.

Here is the link z-sec AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dgtcn/hi_reddit_were_the_zsecio_team/

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reasonedandinformed | 2 points | Nov 19 2016 16:03:53

People still looking into this should read the whole thread, including the path that it created (https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dgtcn/hi_reddit_were_the_zsecio_team/), and realize this was set up as a distraction. There is deliberate misdirection throughout, and the narrative starts to break down when you look at it from start to finish. None of us would have ever found this site without the misdirection. They were trying to lead us here.

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Eduel80 | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 22:26:28

Whoa way over my head

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StopBeingBatshit | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 03:18:27

It's really simple:

Symbols: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher

Converted to

Regular alphabet

Converted to

A numerical value (each letter has a value, add them all up to get one big number): gematrix.org

Converted to

Huge list of possible sentences with letters that add up to the same number: gematrix.org (again)

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Eduel80 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:46:18

Ok not I see it! thank you.... but how is it connected to the IT security company?

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StopBeingBatshit | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 05:01:29

The IT company has an image of a long string of pigpen symbols at the bottom of their page, and apparently the same image in a directory on their server called hellofriends.svg.

People just realized what the symbols were, and starting converting them.

IMO it's a prank or disinfo (check out the about page on the IT site, the bios of the people working there are hilariously funny -one guy was raised by penguins in Antarctica apparently-), but who knows.

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Bizzibodi | 10 points | Nov 16 2016 20:32:07

WTF?...security website;

https://www.z-sec.io/

And it says "Find More about Our Services Below"

And below is the code which equals;

"Missing British Girl Madeline McCann Portugal 2007"

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zethrowtf | 15 points | Nov 16 2016 20:39:30

Which could equal that. It's not evidence, it's another piece of circumstantial evidence that we can throw on the MTN of "wtf is this" that we've found.

Keep in mind it also has a hidden page entitled hellofriends.svg which is another code that when deciphered, is a coupon to god knows what.

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megatromax | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:33:04

looks to be the same code that is at the bottom of every page on the IT site.

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zethrowtf | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:35:01

Yea that's what I'm thinking too. I was under the thought they were different, but it's only a link to the image used there.

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practicalguy | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:54:07

Could also be done on purpose to send us off on a BS trail while they run n hide...

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 19 2016 16:05:06

Exactly...or as a honeyhole to collect info on those digging.

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2-DRY-4-2-LONG | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 19:42:47

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

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Dusty1776 | 16 points | Nov 16 2016 22:01:35

It's 2016, anything goes in this timeline.

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practicalguy | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:54:58

Yep, a guy with fairy floss hair from the TV is President and he beat a criminal pedo...

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lovedisco | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:58:35

breath of the wild

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CredAndBercuses | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:09:02

Point Emerging, Probably Entering. Praise the PEPE.

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libertyant | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 20:29:32

can some one ELi5 what these numbers and this story means? 2007? 698?

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Tok-A-Mak | 10 points | Nov 16 2016 23:01:25

ITT, people have been trolled by 4chan.

The code is Pigpen_cipher I didn't see if this is true, but according to 4chan, the string is "nqeuhpeyfhmmplqquupgqoqhtqckhyopweupexpwgbhgyumhll" It may be another cypher encoding whatever (i guess something like we're hiring blah blah...). A simple rot doesn't reveal anything (note the many double letters.. ..qquu..).

Anyways, my point is that the gematria doesn't mean anything. First of all, despite being top at google, gematrix.org is a shitty site for this.

Simple English Gematria means, that every letter is substituted with a number. A=1, B=2, C=3... ..Z=26. If you add all of them up, it adds to 689, like all the other sentences on the sceenshot, that i guess, were entered by other users of the site. It's just an arbitrary sentence with about the same lenght. I don't feel like actually doing the math, but the odds of such long strings yielding the same number are not small at all. And you could contruct similar sentences to cover other numbers (TWO ZERO ZERO SEVEN, really?). This is also why Simple English Gematria should generally be considered a very crappy system of gematria and should never be used with anything longer than a few characters.

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newfoundland_urth | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 23:07:00

Yeah I had no idea what pigpen_cipher or gematria were, but the whole thing felt fake. It followed the exact same path as the alleged stegged owl photo. People keep boarding these hype trains because they are not tech savvy enough to see the holes in the methods (myself included on this).

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Bizzibodi | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:01:25

trolled

Its Cointelpro Disinformation so the average person wont trust info coming from that site.

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Tok-A-Mak | 4 points | Nov 17 2016 01:39:15

Possible. Even likely. I know its nothing new. Here for example, 4 months ago, same shit with another number, but this time about Comey and Clinton: https://www.reddit.com/r/occult/comments/4s93vl/4chan_anon_claims_comey_using_gematria_to_send_a/

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Bizzibodi | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:51:00

From Google Cache and Yahoo Cache the web page was changed between the 6th of Nov. and the 13th of Nov.

This was quite an operation then to fool someone later on the 15th of November.

4chan must have been on to something to lead them away with these fake codes and fake leads.

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Milennial_Falcon | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:23:19

BINGO

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megatromax | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 21:52:46

2007: is the year Madeleine went missing. 698: is the simple gematria value of the code that is at the bottom of the IT website.

698 can also be the gematria value of other phrases which is worth looking into just in case they have a possible connection.

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libertyant | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 21:59:06

but why is this important? did it predict it or simply annotate that news with that gematria value? or was it even done many years in advance? or is it simply the fact that its there thats creppy? sorry if being stupid. there did seem to be loads of links/stories there

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megatromax | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 22:05:56

don't be sorry man. I'm in the same boat you are. i didn't even know about gematria values until today. still trying to figure out how links are tied to gematria values. BUT whatever the reason is, it still is a WTF moment. Too much of a coincidence if you ask me.

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greenfilestripe | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:00:58

Madeline McCann disappeared in 2007 fwiw

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libertyant | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:04:40

yes but that doesnt mean anything if this website was made in like 2010. All that would mean is they simply coded a known fact?

unless theres something im missing? i havent looked thoroughly 100% into the other "articles" on that pic, but is it only freaky cos its Maddy? ie its out of context story saved there?

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KiA423469420 | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:39:18

There's a big stack of 698s in the source, one of which is underlined. Why is that one underlined in particular?

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 22 points | Nov 16 2016 19:40:40

Because Mccan's investigation was never solved, and the Podesta bros were in Portugal at the time, their faces match the police sketches, there is some serious fucking interference from the British government in that investigation, and John's emails around that time are wiped.

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KiA423469420 | 12 points | Nov 16 2016 19:48:03

Thanks for the info. Has it been established that they were in Portugal at the time? I couldn't dig that up myself, and I've seen others asking the question. It'd be nice to know for sure.

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urwonderful | 9 points | Nov 16 2016 21:37:48

Do we know for a fact the Podestas were in Portugal in 2007?

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 21:38:59

Ahh I can't find it now one of the anon's found an email from 2007 indicating the Podestas were in Europe, and together and there are something to corroborate Portugal but I can't find the archive now.

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maxdembo | 9 points | Nov 16 2016 23:32:24

You really obfuscate things by saying stuff that hasnt been verified. Have more care.

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Baygo22 | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:38:34

No. The email from 2014 indicates just one went to Portugal.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7941

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Milennial_Falcon | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:21:54

Madeleine McCann went missing in 2007, not 2014.

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Baygo22 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 04:43:17

Exactly.

Despite all the talk of "it was in the Wikileaks email!", the fact is that nobody can place John Podesta, Tony Podesta, or any Podesta in Portugal in 2007.

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Milennial_Falcon | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:48:22

Yeah, people are getting so frenzied about this that they have zero standards for fact-checking. It's one big game of telephone.

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:54:43

This is a site I found that places both Podestas in the same complex as Madeleine at the time of the abduction, staying with Clem Freud, a convicted pedophile: http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/11/do-john-and-tony-podesta-have-a-connection-with-missing-child-madeleine-mccann/ It is anonymously sourced. There was a CFR meeting in Lisbon, Portugal May 3-5, 2007. See if anyone can find hard evidence.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:58:57

So a dude who is closely tied with the Podestas own a villa less than a mile from where Mccan was abducted... suspicious as fuck.

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megatromax | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 22:44:02

i think this is the email that people are referring to: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23724

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wile_e_chicken | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:51:21

Relevant info-meme

John and Tony Podesta resemble police sketches for Madeline McCann's kidnappers

http://sli.mg/M0v12q.png

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CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 19:54:06

This might be a troll.

This website has only one webachive entry and its created today https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.z-sec.io/

It could be that somebody thought up a link to create and some ways to encrypt it as a puzzle and created a quick webpage.

Find evidence that the website existed over 2 weeks ago and it might be interesting

perhaps useful: https://who.is/whois/z-sec.io

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zethrowtf | 20 points | Nov 16 2016 19:58:14

Archive was created that day.* Doesn't mean it's a troll, means that someone archived it when they found it to be relevant.

I believe it's registered for a year so it in theory should have been created a year before the expiration date.

If you agree or are not trying to troll fix the first line. People will see this and discredit the post, when if it isn't a troll could lead to big things. It's important to get speculation, but labeling it a troll based on your opinion is hurtful if it isn't a troll.

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CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK | 10 points | Nov 16 2016 19:59:58

You are right.

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zethrowtf | 11 points | Nov 16 2016 21:07:21

I think it has a high possibility to be a troll or disinformation.. what are the chances their intent was to imply themselves directly with an open investigation. Just doesn't add up to me. I think we should go back to see if it could possibly mean anything else.. just to eliminate any possible intent behind this. If none are found.. I would lean towards disinfo or these people are incredibly dumb.. but why go to those lengths to display that specific message? Ugh ima take a break from pizza gate my head hurts.

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IncreasinglyAlarmed | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 21:12:08

The more popular theory is that it's a deaddrop. Unless you were directed there why on earth would you even go to this website? We only found it through some seriously convoluted links.

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zethrowtf | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 21:27:11

Yes that sounds more likely. Ugh I have so many questions with this lead.

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newfoundland_urth | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:01:39

likewise... and my patience for trusting 4chan anons that claim they have found something hidden is running thin

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:22:29

I think anything of relevance has already been posted. Idk what hidden gem you're referring to but I wouldnt hold my breath.

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newfoundland_urth | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:26:59

I am not referencing any hidden gem. Every time 4chan has claimed they found a hidden file in the podesta emails, or now on a semi-related site through a cipher, it has been an outright fabrication. Outside of the creepy language in the body of the emails themselves, the gross social media accounts, and the connections between people and businesses nothing "hidden" has been uncovered to my knowledge.

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:45:01

Ahhhhh okay. Yes lots of links to obscure references. Gotta be happy they're at least trying to keep alive. I remember such claims now to think about it. I think 4chan was most vocal about wanting it released. But lots of speculation in wikileaks insurance/dead man's switch files, which I believe to contain that hidden gem.. FBIanon seemed pretty authentic but once again on 4chan so no way to verify.

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pizzausername2394 | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 21:43:39

It might be a troll, but there may be some misconceptions here too. Web Archive is an automatic crawler. If it's about an obscure, buried website that hasn't to some extent been hyperlinked to, there's nothing extraordinary about it not having been archived until people started linking to it. It's not manually archived but crawled.

With Havre being the registering agent, this is still an open lead.

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beest1 | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 22:10:29

The css file https://www.z-sec.io/css/custom.css shows the developer made a font-pack (just for the main logo, all other glyphs are a stock serif font), and updated it on 08/01/2016. line 368 /* Generated by Glyphter (http://www.glyphter.com) on Mon Aug 01 2016*/

Also, They are using FontAwesome icon font-pack version 4.7.0 released on October 24th, 2016 https://github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Awesome/releases

On the fence about it being a troll. The developer is pretty sharp but it could be an out of the box theme/template. edit: The footer clearly says it's a template from Templated https://templated.co/

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CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 22:27:46

Damn now thats some good digging.

A skeptic might say that anyone could edit that text file to be at any date; but if this was a quick prank then I don't think they would have noticed it. But then again: you did, so maybe they could have.

I think you might be onto something.

I dont have the time to look into this right now but I hope others continue down your thread. If definitive proof is found that this was there 2 weeks ago then it would really be groundbreaking and worthy of this entire sub's attention.

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tinfoilhat9000 | 7 points | Nov 16 2016 22:21:43

ALRIGHT EVERYONE:

Zanarkand LLC's FCC listing: http://apps.fcc.gov/cgb/form499/499detail.cfm?FilerNum=831666

This is the address listed for the office of the Zanarkand LLC. On google maps it takes you to the backside of a Dentists Office??? What in the world??? 3588 GA-138 #349 Stockbridge, GA 30281

On the FCC website, and this could be entirely coincidence, Conneticut Ave is a big street in DC, but the agent who filed this claim for Zanarkand has an office in a building 15 minutes away from Comet Ping Pong: http://apps.fcc.gov/cgb/form499/499detail.cfm?FilerNum=831666

1150 Connecticut Ave, NW Suite 900

Also worth noting the "D.C. Agent for Service of Process" Bill Havre is not listed on the Martin F McMahan & Associates website. The Martin F McMahan also only has 2 google reviews, both 1 star and negative, and recent. This is a company that has been around since 1978???? Extremely weird.

Working on this right now will update. Could be nothing.

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alleykat1147 | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 01:13:20

i find it strange that the suite number for the listed address is 349, exactly half of the 698 that was decoded. i'm not sure why but it just feels off, especially because of the odd location. maybe the numbers are important?

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zamass | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 05:35:22

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=349

One of the sentences is: child molestors representative

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tinfoilhat9000 | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:38:42

698 of what decoding?? That is a good lead

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alleykat1147 | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:51:57

the one that this whole thread is about.

there may be a lot more to the website that we've figured out yet. the weird employee bios and odd numbers. i don't know.

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tinfoilhat9000 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:57:41

Oh dang yes Im sorry, I wasnt sure if something new had come out, there has been so much

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mertical | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 05:51:50

Check out this employee bio on that site:

Bryan is a certified pentester and doomsayer for Zanarkand. He grew up on the southern tip of Antarctica and was raised by penguins. A kindly sea captain picked him up when he turned fourteen; upon returning to port, the sea captain promptly retired and married Bryan, and they have been together ever since.

And this one:

Jane is VP of Customer Relations for Zanarkand. Trained as a cryptozoologist, Jane gained acclaim from an early age for discovering definitive proof of the existence of the Jersey Devil. Shortly afterwards, however, she realized man was the strangest animal of them all and left the field.

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megatromax | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 23:01:12

This is the address listed for the office of the Zanarkand LLC. On google maps it takes you to the backside of a Dentists Office??? What in the world??? 3588 GA-138 #349 Stockbridge, GA 30281

looks like the back of The UPS Store. Matches the same address. Not dentist.

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tinfoilhat9000 | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 23:06:43

Oh is it one of those boxes they have at UPS stores? Like a PO box? I wasn't familiar with how those addresses are listed out. That would make sense though.

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megatromax | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 16:29:19

if it was a PO box (at least a legitimate one) the address would start with P.O. Box #### Stockbridge, GA 30281. So I'm guessing it's not a po box address.

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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 02:26:08

Probably nothing but I recall that when the Feds searched the mansion of billionaire/convicted pedo Jeffrey Epstein, he had a fully functioning dentist chair complete with all equipment in a small room upstairs. Just weird. There's video and pics of it on reddit somewhere.

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megatromax | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 16:35:46

the dentist i currently go to, illegally has a setup like that at her house in a closet. lol. Radom but it is cheaper than going to a dentist office even with insurance. maybe i should see if she has pedo ties. lol jk.

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:23:48

The website link to the transactions group (from this page: http://www.martinmcmahonlaw.com/bios-2) has changed, based on archive.org, not only in what is on it but where it directs you. Now it points to this spot (http://www.tbacreative.net/bios.html) and displays a blank page with Chinese characters. It was showing in native Chinese until I translated. Does this have significance?? I have a theory.

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:43:02

Bill Havre is not listed in the actual link as being with McMahon & Associates, just showing their DC address. Here is the link to his company, https://www.registeredagentsinc.com, not showing any DC office. Even more important, the first archive.org capture is November 8. This whole ruse is a setup and a shill/troll venture to misinform, create more lunatic-sounding conspiracy, and take us off the hot scent. Those sniffing this lead should be applauded for exploring all unturned stones, but this should be seen as a conclusive misinformation thread at this point.

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tinfoilhat9000 | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 22:23:31

Ah yes I agree. I had posted that when it was breaking and everything was being unturned.

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dr3gs | 7 points | Nov 17 2016 01:12:42

I just checked the "About Us" page https://www.z-sec.io/about.html

http://imgur.com/a/nPA7T

Clearly somebody is messing around at this point.

In addition, Zanarkand is a Final Fantasy location.. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zanarkand

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Bizzibodi | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:23:26

And Z-Sec would be for "Zombie Security."

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Bizzibodi | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 21:00:58

Brodie Calhoun + Bill Havre

http://apps.fcc.gov/cgb/form499/499detail.cfm?FilerNum=831666

http://archive.is/ztTSY

https://www.linkedin.com/in/broddie-calhoun-31241162

http://archive.is/jewzR

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PatrioticDeplo | 9 points | Nov 16 2016 22:07:46

From his linkedin

 Volunteer Experience & Causes

Causes Broddie cares about: •Children •Education •Human Rights

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Bizzibodi | 6 points | Nov 16 2016 23:11:31

Its a FREEMASON MASONIC CIPHER

http://www.dummies.com/games/cryptograms/easy-masonic-ciphers-to-figure-out/

Gawd...Satanist Albert Pike used it...

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PatrioticDeplo | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:52:02

picumqctlmggqoiiuuqmihimwibfmthqvcuqczqvdjmdtugmoo

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Bizzibodi | -1 points | Nov 16 2016 23:20:53

Gematria /ɡəˈmeɪ.tri.ə/ originated as an Assyro-Babylonian-Greek system of alphanumeric code/cipher later adopted into Jewish culture that assigns numerical value to a word/name/phrase in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other or bear some relation to the ...

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sexman510 | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 18:35:59

this os yuuuuuge

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practicalguy | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:55:17

I thought you were saying OSSS like in BJJ talk

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MirrorMirrorRTJ | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 19:27:27

http://www.herbertpedron.com/ogmios/symbolisms-thedivineguide.html Info on 698, numerology

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PatrioticDeplo | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 21:59:28

Holy fuck...

896|698| 986..

→ Antichrist[=Spirit of Lie=6] | Anti-Antichrist [=Spirit of Truth=9] | Christ[=8] An 'all about' or reference to the FIGHT of Christ VX Antichrist or the Truth VX the Lie yet to the 'end & beginning times', similar to the uni-hypercode 3896 which latter one includes also the Trinity|Holy Spirit [3].

→ Also: Key-code for the original 11:11

→ Ogmios birthday : [1]8.9.6[1]

→ Vespa 968 confirmation series

N.b.: The fight for balance does not aim a balance between balance and imbalance (which is kind of a self betraial). It aims the balance.

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lovedisco | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 01:59:57

;)

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zethrowtf | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 20:43:27

Speculation as to what a part of this could mean isn't going to lead us anywhere. (Didn't scroll down to 698) but if you feel it's a lead, post what you've found within your link in your OP, so effort isn't wasted to see if it's relevant or not.

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CredAndBercuses | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:12:06

Too long, didn't scroll

CTRL+F, bro.

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:14:55

I was on Mobile at the time and once I read the first few, I got an idea where it was going.

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CredAndBercuses | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:28:19

Options menu -> find in page.

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zethrowtf | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:47:18

I'm aware how to do it on mobile ThNk you.

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throwitnow | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 19:25:38

I can't find any confirmation that this z-sec.io site is legit - someone might have just made/changed/hacked it in the last 24 hours to troll.

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Philario | 9 points | Nov 16 2016 20:15:39

Mystery solved.

bash-4.4$ whois z-sec.io

Domain : z-sec.io
Status : Live
Expiry : 2017-05-02

NS 1   : b.dns.gandi.net
NS 2   : c.dns.gandi.net
NS 3   : a.dns.gandi.net

Owner Name    : Broddie Calhoun
Owner OrgName : Zanarkand
Owner Addr    : 3588 Highway 138 SE, Suite #349
Owner Addr    : Stockbridge
Owner Addr    : GA
Owner Addr    : US

Check for 'z-sec.sh' --- http://www.nic.sh/go/whois/z-sec.sh
Check for 'z-sec.ac' --- http://www.nic.ac/go/whois/z-sec.ac

bash-4.4$

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Bizzibodi | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 21:02:50

Brodie Calhoun + Bill Havre

http://apps.fcc.gov/cgb/form499/499detail.cfm?FilerNum=831666

http://archive.is/ztTSY

https://www.linkedin.com/in/broddie-calhoun-31241162

http://archive.is/jewzR

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Philario | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 22:56:50

April Fools Day - figures!

499 Filer ID Number:                831666
     Registration Current as of:         **Apr  1 2016 12:00AM**

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 18:58:39

Would need help at the FCC to create that fake date when created this month. This thing goes very deep, but they are trying to distract with rabbit holes.

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Bizzibodi | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 02:32:08

Whoever wants to know who is behind pizzagate and is covering up this whole conspiracy the answer is in the 4 letter archive.is second link.

The odds of THAT happening are astronomical.

This whole reality matrix must be a fake.

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CredAndBercuses | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:20:15

Or the chaos of reality is trying to send us messages. That would explain the gematria actually linking to something relevant, within the first 10 sentences that have the same sum.

All this attention given to this case is causing more and more "random" links like this to be found, and taken as evidence, causing more and more attention to be given to the links... etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_yalQP1fKg

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Bizzibodi | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 00:28:54

I would have to say the site has been hacked and its all Fake...

https://www.z-sec.io/img/logo2.svg

img/desk2.svg

img/servers.svg

img/phones.svg

A yahoo cache of November 6th reveals that the webpage should have the images above viewing the page source.

But only hellofreind.svg remains in the current page.

And firefox is now warning the page is a forgery.

It looks like the entire setup of the webpage changed in the last week.

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 19:02:06

Please link to this yahoo cache...I do not see one...but I do agree this is all a fake based on the mis-directing info contained above.

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pizzathrowaway_503 | 4 points | Nov 17 2016 00:42:04

Sorry guys - someone is pulling our leg. Look around the website OP is talking about. If you are paranoid, you can run it through VirusTotal to verify the website is safe.*

A few things to note - they realize the "mysterious symbols" are there, as they mention it on their FAQ. You'll also notice the question before the last mentions they track website visits - just be aware.

Continue to the "About us" page and you'll notice most of the mini-bios are humorously fake.

If you look at their Network Management Service, they include a link the a "pricing document" near the bottom of the page. This link leads to a 404.

I haven't tried any of the info on the contact page, but looking up their phone number shows it is owned by a Zanarkand LLC, which according to bizapedia is a "Domestic Limited-Liability Company" , not a private security firm.

Also, while this doesn't say much, overall the website is pretty "weak". It's very simple and wouldn't take long to make, and certainly wouldn't sell me if I was a client looking to outsource my IT security.

*A final note about the "safety" of this website - Chrome is blocking scripts from running when I visit this website. I doubt they are anything too bad since Chrome doesn't completely block access to the website and VirusTotal shows it's clean, but caution is always recommended.

Basically, this looks like a prank.

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TheyCryWolf | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 03:47:58

A "Limited-Liability Company" (LLC) doesn't dictate what they do, it's just the type of organization. I'm not saying the evidence in this thread is definitely legit, but none of the points you're making really discredit it.

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Bizzibodi | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 01:26:59

Then this thread should be locked.

If its not locked then...

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Nasty___ | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:13:11

You realize that all of this is gov related , shadow or otherwise, and you are trying to expose it as it tries to throw you off. Aka, this runs so deep and wide and no one has made even a major find that ... I'm lost now need sleep

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wile_e_chicken | 3 points | Nov 16 2016 19:50:16

archive: http://sli.mg/UuNcq5.png

https://archive.is/S8NXQ

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Milennial_Falcon | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 04:35:40

The stupidity of this post and this thread are going to make me lose it. Literally billions of sentences could add up to 698 in gematria. This is DISINFORMATION. The only reason that sentence is near the top of the results is from people googling it in the wake of pizzagate.

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beatricejensen | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 10:49:33

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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xkcd_transcriber | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 10:49:47

Image

Mobile

Title: Tech Support

Title-text: I recently had someone ask me to go get a computer and turn it on so I could restart it. He refused to move further in the script until I said I had done that.

Comic Explanation

Stats: This comic has been referenced 293 times, representing 0.2156% of referenced xkcds.


^ xkcd.com ^| ^ xkcd sub ^| ^ Problems/Bugs? ^| ^ Statistics ^| ^ Stop Replying ^| ^ Delete

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reasonedandinformed | 1 points | Nov 18 2016 19:06:58

I agree. This is copied from above to put the probabilities in perspective: Isn't there another way to think about this (admittedly simple but a bit intuitive to get an approximation). The lowest total would be 50 (all letter A). The highest total would be 1300 (all z). The delta is 1250, meaning that the chance of a randomly constructed 50-letter phrase having a match is 1 in 1250, which is .08%? Since the language is not randomly constructed (lower probabilities of letters Q, X, Z...), the universe of possible phrases is actually much, much smaller. You could apply the letter probability to quickly refine (I am not bothering), which would quickly bring the chance of a likely collision to something over 1%. Thoughts? Godspeed to those on the hunt for truth and justice!

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th3_pwn15h3r | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 00:41:21

% Information related to '217.70.176.0/20AS29169'

route:          217.70.176.0/20
descr:          GANDI is an ICANN accredited registrar
descr:          for more information:
descr:          Web:   http://www.gandi.net
origin:         AS29169
mnt-by:         GANDI-NOC
created:        2003-07-31T17:09:25Z
last-modified:  2003-07-31T17:09:25Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.88 (BLAARKOP)

I did a whois on the on the z-sec.io IP address (217.70.184.38) and found that whole netblock is registered with ICANN. I wonder if this is why Obama was so adamant about giving ICANN over to the UN...

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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 02:16:15

Same decoded cypher that lists Madeleine McCann also list a person named Zachary James Carr of Aledo, Illinois. First hit includes him in a UFO story that also mentions...JOHN PODESTA.

http://cryptozoologynews.com/iowa-resident-claims-encounter-with-ufo-delivered-message/

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=zachary%20james%20carr%20the%20most%20enlightened%20person%20alive%20of%20aledo%20illinois

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oh--long--johnson | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 02:29:34

100% fake. They used text "nqeuhpeyfhmmplqquupgqoqhtqckhyopweupexpwgbhgyumhll"

But if you simply go to this page, you can see even the first letter is wrong. http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/pigpen.html

Fucking chans man.

Correct decoded sequence is: PICUMQCTLMGGQOIIUUQDIHIMWIBFMTHQVCUQCZQVDJMDTUGMOO

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beatricejensen | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 10:48:48

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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DonJunbar | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 06:41:15

This is so fucking stupid, that it hurts to read. It's amazing what you can get people to believe with trolling.

https://np.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5danwt/it_security_company_created_by_bill_havre/da3g0mb/

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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 20:39:26

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Bizzibodi | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 20:43:16

IT security company created by this mysterious Bill Havre, who also created Rachel Chandler's modeling agency and is pictured with Bill Clinton and she has ties to Jeffery Epstiens plane and she could have been a recruiter for girls.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwhYDVHVEAAIpe4.jpg

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practicalguy | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:41:28

Who the frick is Bill Havre and Rachel Chandler bring me up to speed centipedes please.

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arobins222 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 06:15:50

So I downloaded the message at the bottom of the page and it appears to be a VeraCrypt file if you remove the ".svg". Anyone know how to crack a VeraCrypt password? https://www.z-sec.io/img/helloFriend.svg

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beatricejensen | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 10:49:45

The correct decoded sequence is "mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill".

Here is the solution .

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contrarianism | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 07:10:44

How did they translate the code from the web page? It was an SVG. I assume they used a font, but where is that mentioned?

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mertical | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 12:28:41

"McFadden used complex encoded postings on Craigslist that would look like useless or corrupted data, in which he would embed the information of the woman available, the type of sex interaction she would be willing to perform and the place to meet her."

Info re Mcfadden's arrest: http://regated.com/2016/10/former-clinton-liaison-arrested-prostitution-ring/

More here: https://www.google.com/amp/www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/democratic_catholic_leader_arrested_on_prostitutionrelated_charges/?client=safari

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PizzaThrowaway777777 | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 16:52:13

See this post by z-sec.io.

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