Nyao | 198 points
Can we stop with the "James Alefantis = J'aime les enfants in french"
I've read it several times here this week, and it looks like some people thinks it's a good evidence.
Other french people, am I the only one who thinks this is complete bullshit? I mean, to pronounce James Alefantis "J'aime les enfants" you have to really want it, or be drunk af.
And imagine you're a pedophile, do you really want to change your name to something suspiscious? "Hey Irepp Littlekids, can you babysit my daughter tonight?"
This kind of bullshit discredits this subreddit, it would be probably better to not spread it without any evidence.
PS : Sorry for my english, but you know... I'm french :(
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justforthissubred | 25 points
THIS is correct. Forget the shirt. There is PLENTY of other stuff way more incriminating about this sick fuck and his restaurant. For example, all the creepy instagram comments, and the fact he BLACKMAILED DAVID BROCK for 850k and a new house. There's some shit there.
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Something is wrong with reddit.
Are you a mother fucking retard? HIS NAME IS JAMES ALEFANTIS. YOU DON'T NAME YOUR LAST NAME AFTER LOCAL RESTAURANTS. WHAT THE FUCKING HELL ARE YOU SAYING?
IT ISN'T STRONG EVIDENCE, OR EVIDENCE AT ALL, BUT IT IS ERIE AS FUCK.
"Let's get some context"... you're a fucking shill shouting diverting nonsense. You have the top comment yet it has the 3rd # of up votes.
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It isn't about the t-shirt buddy... it's about his name. His name is "James Alefantis".... "J'aime a l'enfant"... It never was about the tee shirt.
FurtherTheAgenda | 31 points
I wouldn't say "good evidence"
Very strange though considering ...
polar-alpines | 17 points
There's also the picture of ~~him~~ someone wearing a shirt that says, "I (heart) kids" in French on his instagram.
_UsUrPeR_ | 21 points
L'enfant cafe/bar is just down the street.
Address: 2000 18th St NW, Washington, DC 20009
I presume they had shirts printed.
justforthissubred | 16 points
Please get the facts right so the shills don't have ammo to argue with us. It was not him. It was people he knows though.
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LeakyOne | 7 points
Maybe L'Enfant Cafe should be digged into? It could be an inside joke to have a double meaning, and easy to hide...
megatromax | 7 points
Also, i saw in one of those maps that they've done that connects the evidence a paper where it read "the boom boom room... no cell phone permitted" or something like that on jimmycomet instagram (i think)... people have been trying to tie it to something but it turns out it's actually a place: (http://laboumbrunch.com/laboumboumroom/). Not trying to discourage people, just adding from ALL the info available.
contrarianism | 4 points
Not him tho
justforthissubred | 8 points
No but it's a pic of three of his associates, in front of Comet. Pretty much removes any question in any objective observer's mind that this guy is a complete sicko.
twsmith | 19 points
It's J'♥ L'Enfant , not J'♥ les enfants.
The shirt is for L'Enfant Café and Bar (look at label under jimmycomet in the upper right hand corner).
Pierre Charles L'Enfant was the engineer who laid out the streets of Washington, D.C.
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Ahhhhhh. So the tee shirt thing is bullshit, or unlikely an inside joke.
justforthissubred | 6 points
This is good info. Thanks for the correction.
Still does not excuse all the other creepy shit though.
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Hiphoppington | 6 points
Definitely no. It's interesting absolutely but circumstantial. It is ostensibly a pizza joint for kids to hang out and play ping pong at right? I've seen similar things at other places.
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Agreed
pleasedontsuicideme | 11 points
Hello, my name is Moe Lester Raeper. Nice to meet you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
In all seriousness though, yes, please stop. We need some way to post these little 'random connections' we find to separate it from more substantial stuff.
Futakitty | 9 points
French here, it doesn't even sound similar past the first word.
[deleted] | 4 points
Think of how it sounds or rather looks to a native English speaker though. I understand the point about the French pronounciation being very different, but for me that is not the point of the name.
[deleted] | 1 points
French here. ~~He~~ Jimmy pedo doesn't speak French and it is more than uncomfortably similar if you know he can't speak it.
Futakitty | 1 points
Stop claiming that I don't speak french when people can take a quick look at my post history
[deleted] | 4 points
Dude chill. I'm talking about James.. il n'y a un problem
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u/Futakitty likely new or a shill
Futakitty | 3 points
You can check my post history, you will see plenty of my posts on /r/france (and my account is a year old).
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So you're new to r/pizzagate? Dude. I have no problem with you. I just think it's pretty damn close to the French, at least in spelling.
HillarysPizzaParty | 5 points
It's, at best, barely relevant to the case, I agree.
Beware those who would divert the investigation.
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KAEHC | 4 points
I'd say it is most definitely not just a coincidence. These people are fucking demons, they love to hide in plain sight, adds to the thrill.
And as others have mentioned, how do you explain the shirt? Come on now...
Nyao | 17 points
Damn I understand why no one take conspirationnists seriously. You guys want to believe so much that you accept everything that goes in the way of your theory, even the dumbest things.
I think I wasn't clear enough but, in french "James Alefantis" is really far to sound like "J'aime les enfants". It's closer to "J'aime éléphant".
So... I think it's a zoophile ring, I will make a new subreddit based on this discovery.
KAEHC | 6 points
It's hard to take you seriously saying words like "conspirationnists" and the inability to see what is right in front of your eyes.
Let's just assume for the hell of it that he is in fact using a pseudonym to play on the word grouping "J'aime les enfants". You think he would make it so damn obvious that it is simply irrefutable that it is linked to "I Love Children"? James Alefantis is eerily close to the phrase, and that is the only reason we even speak on this topic.
And then the image of the shirt, holy shit is it not obvious enough for you yet?
Nyao | 6 points
It's not eerily close.
[deleted] | 5 points
It isn't fucking evidence, it's just an erie coincidence.
chayesdigital | 2 points
I think we have infiltrators in our group posing as fucking idiots to make us all look bad.
justforthissubred | 5 points
Thing is, there is so much other stuff to focus on. THis shirt thing is a fucking distraction and the shills will focus on it because it IS probably a coincidence. MEanwhile there are mountains of circumstantial evidence that gets ignored while people debate the logo on a FUCKING SHIRT
KAEHC | 2 points
I agree, but it can't be ignored either. It is an extremely minor detail of this entire scandal.
I just couldn't sit here and let some idiot try to act like it means nothing.
CThaxter | 2 points
Wow, totally dusagree! If it's an assumed name, we'd want to know it, so we could discover the pervert's real name. How hard is that to understand? Please stop shilling an entirely legitimate line of inquiry merely because the native French pronunciation doesn't correspond to your idea of how his name is pronounced in English.
justforthissubred | 2 points
It's not just that though (as far as the T shirt goes). There is the cafe. And there is the fact that the entire neighborhood was designed by a guy with the last name Enfant. That entire area is called Enfant. That explains the shirt.
And people did look up the name of Jimmy and Alefantis is his birth name and was his parents name. So there is nothing there. Not shilling. Just trying to get us focused on more of the smoking gun issues.
Like why he posted all the creepy comments about kids on his insta and then took them down.
Why did he blackmail Brock?
What was in those files on his website that then got taken down?
Stuff like that.
tazcatlipoca | 0 points
That shirt seals the deal for ANY critical thinker
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tazcatlipoca | 3 points
And all this is somehow supposed to be a coincidence?
Yeah I don't believe Anything.
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Milennial_Falcon | 1 points
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5d9n4w/can_we_stop_with_the_james_alefantis_jaime_les/da2zrnn/
regrettheprophet | 4 points
I think you're right, reading that name doesn't sound anywhere close to Jaime les enfants
[deleted] | 2 points
Its weird but not conclusive... HE DID however post a pic on his public IG of a guy wearing a shirt that had the exact phrase: "J'aime les enfants" (heart logo in place of J'aime) on it standing between 2 shirtless guys.
wookin_pa_nub2 | 2 points
A subreddit is the absolute worst way to investigate something like this. Half the posters here are too far behind that they don't know that that has already been debunked. The area was designed by a guy named l'Enfant, a ton of things in the area are named after him, there's a cafe with that exact name, and everyone in the area knows what it means. Probably lots of people have those shirts without being pedophiles, so despite the love these guys have for hiding in plain sight, this is evidence of nothing at all .
Scrutinizingtheinfo | 1 points
It does seem almost too coincidental that a man who is at the centre of a child abuse scandal should have a name that is an exact (except for the apostrophe) anagram of the French for "I love children" JAMES ALEFANTIS J'AIME LES ENFANTS - I LOVE CHILDREN Some posters want to ignore this extraordinary coincidence because they say he had this name from birth - did he?
I looked up Greek surnames here http://surnames.behindthename.com/names/usage/greek
I can't find "Alefantis" but maybe the database is limited to very common Greek names so I went to Google translate
Alefantis in Greek is Αλαφάντης according to Google translate.
I found people by this name Αλεφάντης which translates as Alifantou the nearest I could get to Alifantis on the internet.
So I'm coming to the opinion that Alifantis has a very rare or non existent Greek surname.
I wondered what I could find out about him so I searched the internet.
I found this interview about him and his restaurant.
http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
Extracts from interview
MW: Did you grow up in D.C.?
ALEFANTIS: Yeah. I went to Georgetown Day School, down the street, which I also support a lot. I have their teacher receptions, auction things, I’m on the benefit committee. I won the alumni award — it was for Most Supportive of the School or something — two or three years ago.
Is this an award presented to or by Alumni here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_Day_School
Yeah, I loved ping-pong. We played it at my family’s lake cottage in upstate New York, because my parents are from outside of Buffalo.
I thought he may be covering his tracks and been to school near Buffalo or been to both schools. So I did some searching - There appears to be a James Alfentis who graduated from Amhurst Central High School in 1992.
http://amherstcentralhighschool.net/alumni-list.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst_Central_High_School
Alfantis is a rare name but there does seem to be a record of a James Alfantis at Anherst Central High School approximately in the area where he says his parents had a holliday cottage.
I hope this helps someone with further research - I'm starting to feel that this is some sort of Intelligence psyop
aBetterNation | 0 points
there's le boum boum room. its a club. people need to relax. "No cell phones allowed in le boum boum room"
Nyao | 3 points
How is this related to what i've said?
[deleted] | 3 points
Looks like a retarded account. Just downvote and move on.
KiA423469420 | 0 points
It would take a lot of moxie to change your name to Irepp Littlekids, but on the other hand, wouldn't anyone accusing you of raping kids look pretty absurd? It's absurd to think Irepp has some fatalistic destiny to rape kids, y'know? It's just a name. Poor Irepp just has an unfortunate name, and anyways, everyone is mispronouncing it.
Evil is anti-inductive. If everyone "knows" that a fact is harmless, it's a real coup if the person that fact is about is concealing something. Imagine if a philanderer had a reputation as someone with many platonic friends. This is exactly the kind of reputation a philanderer most prizes. By their actions, they tend to degrade that reputation. Yet the longer they can keep up the essential tension of maintaining a fact contrary to reality, the longer they can get the personal benefits of philandering without suffering the social costs of being known as a philanderer.
Changing one's name to something moxiously close to an actual flaw one has would be the same kind of deed. It would create a "harmless" reference that would tend to defuse and discredit actual allegations... if it actually happened. I wouldn't think it a great loss if you persuaded everyone, OP. Evidence hinging on someone's name is legitimately weak. Unless the guy can be shown to have a false history, there's no reason for anyone on this forum to harp about his name.
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It isn't evidence. Just pointing out one of the oddest coincidences of all time.
KiA423469420 | 1 points
Oh for the love of... I'll just come out and say it. Verify the bastard's lineage.
Art_Vandelay1959 | 0 points
"James Alefentis" is an anagram of "J'aime les enfants". It's not an exact match, but close enough.
amateurbeard | 13 points
It's not an exact match, but close enough.
That sums up this sub's theories pretty well, yeah
Milennial_Falcon | 3 points
Too many people getting distracted from the actual evidence. There's been an influx of not-so-critical thinkers.
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justforthissubred | 1 points
actually it's called circumstantial evidence. and when there are mountains of it, you can even convict.
wile_e_chicken | 44 points | Nov 16 2016 16:23:35
Nope. The ferocity with which shills are actively burying this tells me that it's a powerful meme to redpill the public. Your refutation is weak sauce -- nearly as weak as the armies skreeching "It's jusssa tee shirt!!!" when nobody except them is talking about a damn t-shirt.
Since you bring it up, here's a nice info-meme on the topic:
James Alefantis / J'aime les enfants / WTF????
http://sli.mg/JdRpfb.png
Full steam ahead.
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pizzasjw | 10 points | Nov 16 2016 17:25:58
Exactly, exactly, exactly. Keep trying to fuckwits, keep trying.
Smacks of: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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Milennial_Falcon | 10 points | Nov 17 2016 02:15:33
Alefantis is not an assumed name. It's his family name, and it's a Greek name, not French. This kind of stuff is going to make us look like fools, and you look like even more of a fool for calling OP a shill for pointing it out.
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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 03:48:24
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Milennial_Falcon | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 03:55:41
Just google "alefantis greece" and see how common a name it is.
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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 03:58:45
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Milennial_Falcon | 2 points | Nov 17 2016 04:08:36
Somebody posted in a thread about this (on this sub, front page) that his Facebook had relatives with the same name.
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Toriem | 1 points | Nov 22 2016 21:27:57
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werfenaway | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 18:41:27
NOT TO MENTION his middle name is also apparently "Achilles".
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[deleted] | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 16:54:42
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wile_e_chicken | 11 points | Nov 16 2016 17:14:13
Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) is often generational. It's very possible he was abused by his parents (who named him) from a very young age and set on this path.
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verbruetheet | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 18:49:16
all these people too then?
https://www.google.com/search?q=ΑΛΕΦΑΝΤΗΣ
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wile_e_chicken | 0 points | Nov 16 2016 18:56:20
Doubt it, but that's your hypothesis, not mine.
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verbruetheet | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 19:16:08
and your hypothesis is what, his greek ancestors adopted a surname that meant something in a foreign language they didnt understand so that several generations later they could emigrate to america and call a kid "james" in order to better signpost to the world their multi-generational penchant for satanic ritual abuse?
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wile_e_chicken | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 19:27:04
Nah, that's you. I just like to point out that the name of a suspected pedophile sounds an awful lot like "I love children" in French. I still can't say for sure that it's his given name -- he's a very powerful man, and it'd be pretty easy to fake a lineage.
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kerrykingsbaldhead | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 07:05:42
You might be the dumbest person on the internet.
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wile_e_chicken | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 12:23:04
Nah, at least I can predict what my neighbors would do to me if they found out I was protecting pedo-murderers.
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kerrykingsbaldhead | 1 points | Nov 17 2016 15:51:04
Yes, poking holes in an asinine occult Washington elite pedo ring theory is "protecting" pedo murderers.
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[deleted] | 0 points | Nov 16 2016 17:19:33
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wile_e_chicken | 5 points | Nov 16 2016 17:22:04
And here's another one.
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FollowMeOutTheMatrix | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 17:12:55
The first one
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Hiphoppington | 8 points | Nov 16 2016 17:22:23
I'm trying but I just can't see some evil overlord of a global pedophile ring changing his name to literally be "I love kids."
Just seems like a bad move for anyone trying to hide stuff.
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[deleted] | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 17:15:35
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[deleted] | 4 points | Nov 16 2016 17:46:32
It was his birth name, it's been confirmed. He never changed it.
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KAEHC | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 18:27:31
How has it been confirmed?
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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 18:45:39
From u/CredAndBercuses:
Highly likely he was named this as a baby.
familysearch.org:
https://i.sli.mg/iRuJTm.png Born 1945
https://i.sli.mg/uQY1ix.jpg Immigrated from Rome in 1954 apparently at 9 years old
https://i.sli.mg/1zH3EA.jpg I don't touch Zuckbook but this link is intriguing.
Google image search: "James Alefantis" "Father", it's on the 10th row on a domain named rebrn.com. No mention is made in the page to his name, but Google finds it anyway...
https://i.sli.mg/rZsfYS.jpg -> https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/3h7qpr/my_father_was_in_the_navy_during_ww2_having_a/ (no clarification here whether OP is even related to anybody in this photo, but if we assume it's genuine, it seems to be from one of the children)
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KAEHC | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 18:57:36
I don't see anything in your pictures that relates to James Alefantis aside from the fact that one other family had the same last name.
What are you trying to refute?
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[deleted] | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 18:58:37
They aren't my pictures. I'm just trying to say that I don't think he ever changed his name, but it is still his name.
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Herger_The_Joyous | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 18:29:43
Cite?
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[deleted] | 1 points | Nov 16 2016 18:43:00
Links are in comments of my 3rd post
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wookin_pa_nub2 | 3 points | Nov 17 2016 02:51:15
As others have pointed out to you, it's a real family name. I could see a pedophile taking a name like that, like a high school gym teacher using the name "Coach Feratu" if he's a vampire, but there's no evidence that that he ever actually chose this name. This doesn't mean anything unless someone can show that he did, either by changing his name, or falsely claiming it as his name.
There will be clues that don't mean anything sometimes, and you have to be open to that idea. I think this is one of them.
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kushboywonder | 2 points | Nov 16 2016 19:41:15
get em
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