TwoPipes | 154 points
I've found the origin and story of Pizza.jpg
Look, you're not gonna like this. I was tempted not to even post this, because it throws a massive spanner in the whole pizzagate theory. But, I'm not gonna keep it to myself. Please dont downvote this just because it goes against the current theory.
https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/pizza.jpg
The two women and girl in Pizza.jpg are Euna Lee and Laura Ling. On March 17, 2009 they were captured in North Korea.
please read this: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126613763
As you can see, they were captured in North Korea. "Clinton made the trip in August 2009, after Laura and Euna had spent 140 days in captivity, and helped secure their release."
watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgbXLWZtv0Y
It's them, and the exact same girl. Aka, her daughter. This was in August 2009
Now look at the pizza.jpg email:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8673
The date posted, August 2009. This was taken almost immediately after they were rescued.
"It doesn't get any better than this" is referencing the fact they've been rescued, re-united and eating pizza together.
The timing with the stories, and the email, to me alteast, debunks the suspicious meaning behind pizza.jpg.
ps: I'm not a shill, was just researching to find evidence to support Pizzagate, but ended up finding this instead
adamunknown | 16 points
you know that hidden password protected files were found in that photo right?
check this out - just found on a friend of jimmycomet's instagram READ THE COMMENT
http://archive.is/RXmHs
tingleypeebles | 6 points
Did anyone scan that qr code in the image?
adamunknown | 3 points
good point i dont really know what that is
tingleypeebles | 3 points
I have a qr code scanner on my phone but I wouldn't dare scan it just in case. Someone with some tech knowledge who knows of a safe way (if there is one) h9efully will try it
RedeemUs | 3 points
I apologize if I'm missing something obvious, but where do you see something resembling a QR code? The small square slightly to the right of the center is the best guess I have, but even then I think it's a stretch. I tried to scan it but it didn't pick up anything.
TwoPipes | 2 points
source?
adamunknown | 3 points
it was found on 4chan..which I am not part of - many of those posts were deleted....
found it: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/97839694/
TwoPipes | 7 points
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/97852275/
actually look into it. All what happened is, the letters pk showed up..that's it. Nothing else happened in all those threads.
"I think it's bullshit.
The bytes on the left pane don't look like they come from the pizza.jpg file, the bytes highlighted in yellow are NOT present in the file.
The file on the left IS pizza.jpg, but the thing being highlighted isn't a ZIP archive, since the "PK" marker needs to be followed by three bytes of value 3, 4 and 0x14.
Which is the case on the right, but not on the left, and the right-pane is bullshit."
Filmpolice | 14 points
OP, your hypothesis doesn't explain why Bill Clinton himself went out there, why these women were working on child trafficking, why they flew on an Epstein-connected private jet, why a photo of them eating pizza was taken, why it was named specifically "pizza.jpg," and why John Podesta made the remark "it doesn't get better than this."
The better explanation covers all of your data, as well as the data I mentioned above, and it is that these women were about to bust a trafficking ring, Clinton nabbed them and John Podesta was celebrating the irony of them eating pizza.
One way to verify all of this would be to contact the reporters and ask what they were onto, ask them if they know about the "pizza" terminology, and to compare notes with them.
But last I heard, they are missing.
totorox | 3 points
Thanks. Another correct-the-record, PR, tone-policing OP debunked. I'm new to this subreddit but that's all I've been seeing. You guys are under heavy concern-shilling or I'm imagining things.
DawBrady_ | 13 points
So when is the time frame of when the 2 journalists and the little girl reunited and took the pic of them eating pizza? What suggests that directly/indirectly?
TwoPipes | 14 points
August 5, 2009 was the date they got off the plane I believe.
Email sent August 8, 2009.
So...anywhere between them. Doesn't take long to take a private photo eating food.
TwoPipes | 9 points
http://imgur.com/a/G47y3
It's her daughter
JXEYES | 16 points
I don't think this photo or series is part of the conspiracy anymore
TwoPipes | 11 points
I see people talking about it a lot.
A lot of people saying it's encrypted and has zip files attached to it.
So now the only real incriminating email for me is the
" (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related)"
historyinthemakingg | 13 points
"An hour of pizza" seems fishy as well.
TwoPipes | 5 points
An hour of pizza" seems fishy as well.
true, but that makes sense within the context of actually just being pizza.
Aka "Wanna come round for an hour and eat pizza?"
Unless he actually has an handkerchief with a map on it...with pizzas or something, the other email is more confusing.
I've been looking into it, there are handkerchiefs with actual literal maps on them
https://cdn.notonthehighstreet.com/fs/e7/2a/b6e0-b3b0-450d-9536-308dab4a1add/original_manchester-hankie-screenprinted-handkerchief.jpg
but not really got anywhere
whatiswalnutsauce | 12 points
Maps that are pizza related? Also who plays dominons on pasta or pizza?
RustyDingleSausage69 | 5 points
I was thinking that the dominos guy was just trying to make a witty remark saying he might play dominos better on (after having eaten) pasta than after having eaten pizza. Like dominos is their after-dinner game. Could be the actual game, or could be a bunch of sexual innuendos. Don't really know.
whatiswalnutsauce | 6 points
Some people thought dominos meant dominate. Would he dominate pasta or pizza better.
Makes sense. This is all so bizarre.
a-SynKronus | 1 points
I think the most we've gotten so far with the maps is the drawing by that one lady where the kid is laying on top of the handkerchief, where a map would be DNA mapping/leading the handkerchief to that person
JXEYES | 4 points
Lots of people are excitedly making theories and talking about them. I find a hard time not being very skeptical about most of it.
None of it is incriminating imo, but all of it together is suspicious.
o25U1JHpSBR2rSbVfkrC | 5 points
The massive web of soft links being made here, and the whole show of this election are undeniably giving massive credibility to what conspiracy theorists have been saying for decades now. We are reaching a time at the end of the information era where the public is starting to know what actually happens behind closed doors in Washington, and it's going to be ugly and world changing. I was extremely skeptical of all of these subjects before the Podesta leaks, but the large-scale connections made in these leaks is making it blatantly obvious.
The code talk is doing it's job, plausible deniability.
3rdDegreeThrowaway | 3 points
pizza.jpg has definitely been modified from the original photo, but none of my tools are able to determine if it contains hidden files. However I can confirm that typically .Jpg's are not used to hide files, as .png or .bmp have broader support for stenography.
I'm still working on the PNG that was posted. Will report back once I'm home and have access to my full suite of forensic tools.
a-SynKronus | 1 points
The timing is too coincidental. Not saying that you shouldn't look into it, I'm just saying that you probably will find yourself at a dead end
jennythepenguin | 2 points
What about the one where someone says Podesta gave them pasta for Christmas and them using it 'now' (in March)?
And the one about the squared pizza box (cheese vs pasta) and the dominos (pasta/pizza)?
CTRsuperserial | 4 points
Have you ever had a box of dried pasta in your cupboard? That's lasts a long time.
tingleypeebles | 2 points
Playing dominoes on pizza or cheese is still highly suspicious as well and the other email referencing dominoes and not using podesta rules
adamunknown | 4 points
deflect much?
JXEYES | 4 points
What am I deflecting here exactly?
Not every leaked email is part of a larger conspiracy?
Not every theory is viable?
alfy26 | 13 points
OP: it is because of that trip to North Korea the whole thing becomes more interesting.
Pedosta was a member of the delegation to North Korea (not in any official role, acting for the "Center for American Progress")
Clinton and his "delegation" flew to North Korea on Steve Bing's Boeing 737. Steve Bing is tied to Epstein and the pedoring.
At the end of his official remarks, Clinton oddly said that during the official arrival ceremony at the airport a few hours earlier, he had received a "beautiful bouquet of flowers from an even more beautiful little North Korean child". Asian women brought into sex trafficking have been called "flowers" before.
Add to that the coincidence of a child eating cheese pizza with the 2 rescued "journalists", you understand why it is interesting.
It is not unreasonable to hypothesize Clinton/Podesta/Bing brought back "orphan" children from NK on that jumbo jet, nor is it impossible to suggest these 2 "journalists" were sent by the Clintons to harvest children in China or NK before getting caught.
EDIT: oh and the two "journalists" were admittedly "investigating human trafficking" when they got caught
DepressedExplorer | 7 points
Thanks a lot of this. This is the most rational and fact based research on this i've seen the whole day. Bless your work.
whatiswalnutsauce | 6 points
This still doesn't discount everything. What spurred on this researching was the weird hankerchief with map of pizza thing
LargeTeethHere | 3 points
I'm with you. He's making sense but it doesn't discount the mountains of other evidence.
anthoartu | 2 points
He's not trying to discount mountains of other evidence. He's taking down one lead. One.
RedeemUs | 1 points
In the first sentence he does sorta state
Look, you're not gonna like this. I was tempted not to even post this, because it throws a massive spanner in the whole pizzagate theory.
anthoartu | 1 points
Fair enough. I can't speculate on what OP meant by that, but I didn't take it that way. Agree to disagree I guess.
totorox | 1 points
I can't speculate on what OP meant by that
I can: "Another correct-the-record, PR, tone-policing OP debunked. I'm new to this subreddit but that's all I've been seeing. You guys are under heavy concern-shilling or I'm imagining things."
Contrary_mma_hipster | 5 points
It is not a "massive spanner" to pizza gate and moreover doesn't debunk anything, even this tangential tendril of the conspiracy...there's an exoteric and an esoteric meaning to this email and the picture, as was made clear by the other sloppy emails that neglected to keep exoteric form intact.
street1510 | 3 points
I ran a couple steg methods on that image. All I got was a wall, some guy in the background, a fence post, possibly a building, and the number seven. I think the seven is blending of tree branches.
https://i.sli.mg/e7Qryx.jpg
Aarno4412 | 3 points
You've barely scratched the surface. Ask the following questions:
Who is Laura Ling's sister (Lisa Ling)?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/living/lisa-ling-sugar-baby-essay/
Who is Steve Bing?
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8260264&page=1
https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5axyn9/yesterday_i_broke_a_story_about_the_clintons/?compact=true
HolyFooT | 2 points
The way that I've interpreted this is that they were investigating child trafficking and were close to the truth. The satisfaction of seeing them back and eating pizza is from the feeling of dodging a bullet.
lolgobearsk | 2 points
thanks for telling me what i already know, you should work for the huffington post.
totorox | 2 points
OK so what happened to them after that?
I'd track em and make sure they're safe. If they vanished, I'd keep digging.
Dont assume they havent been victimized just because they're known about and accounted for before the picture was taken.
pby1000 | 1 points
This information is very useful. They last thing that should happen is for innocent people to be accused.
ZornsLemmon | 0 points
Sorry, no. It's more than that.
They USE these people who are supposed to be helping child trafficking to do the child trafficking for them.
These women are in on it. You wouldn't say things like 'thank god the're safe'? You think 'it doesn't get any better than this' and a pic of them all eating pizza is a normal reaction to that scenario?
I don't buy it.
TwoPipes | 13 points
Ok, let me play devils advocate. You say "thank god they're safe", when they're safe, or when meeting them, not 5 days after they are safe.
The scenario is, they all met and hung out with each other. The email says
"As John said, it doesn't get any better than this"
aka, John Podesta said that beforehand, probably during the time the picture was taken. Aka, they were relaxing eating pizza, the two women were saved.
takes sip of beer with pizza and friends/family "It doesnt get better than this."
They probably took that picture, and was sending the next day to look back on the good time they had.
[shilling intensifies]
ZornsLemmon | 1 points
They probably took that picture, and was sending the next day to look back on the good time they had.
I don't doubt this as a possibility, I just think the 'good time' they had isn't just sitting around for pizza and beer.
TwoPipes | 0 points
Funny how hostile people get when looking at things from a different perspective :p
plagr | 26 points | Nov 13 2016 19:33:16
Holy fuck you guys are all so disorganized. Go look at the archive. This is old shit from day 1.
You guys are going to fuck up the investigation spinning it in fucking circles like a dog.
Read the archive before you post, don't waste time on things we already solved.
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TwoPipes | 4 points | Nov 13 2016 19:54:32
going in circles = clearing up and debunking a common misused lead?
Ok then. Fact is man, I've not seen anything about this posted here. So, what's the harm in clearing it up.
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plagr | 10 points | Nov 13 2016 19:59:06
It's not anything new though, there's even been infographics.
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pepe_silvia67 | 10 points | Nov 13 2016 22:18:19
Whether or not anyone agrees or disagrees with your conclusions is irrelevant. We need people objectively reviewing the data (old or new) to avoid the echo-chamber effect.
Challenging any narrative is important. Maybe your findings debunk, or maybe they reinforce.
Good work, if anybody else hasn't told you so.
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