stopcensoringpizzaga | 190 points
ATTENTION: WE NEED A NEW, CENTRAL PLACE TO POST AND DISCUSS EVIDENCE. URGENT.
So I have been shadowbanned on my other account I've been using to post evidence. I only just realized it after I made several posts and saw that no one was upvoting or commenting. It is my understanding that many others are experiencing this as well. We immediately need to come up with one safe and central place where we can maintain all of the evidence at the very least, but it would be great if we had a central place to communicate without censorship as well. People are probably posting tons of evidence that is not coming to light because they may not realize they've been shadowbanned. Leave your thoughts please. Let's figure something out.
Edit: Please upload all evidence you have onto this Github repository according to the instructions here
Additional Collaboration Tools Thanks to ned_harriman
#pizzagate.matrix.org - Highly secure and anonymous replacement for Slack. I've only added the link for the Riot webclient, technical users can use others
git mirror - Gogs based. A censorship resistant site, but use the github repo for ease of use and features.
git mirror2 - Gitlab based, also a censorship resistant site.
Useful Personal Tools
If anyone else has created a safe place for uploading evidence and/or communicating without censorship, let me know and I'll review it to add to this post. Also, if you have further suggestions for personal or collaboration tools people can use to simplify our investigative process, let us know that in comments as well. More to come.
Please also continue to post your evidence on r/pizzagate after you've uploaded your evidence to the git repository for safekeeping. It's important because we need to continue to build this subreddit. As always, archive everything before you make any evidence public. Keep up the great work everyone. High energy. Let's destroy these pedos and save the children!
[deleted] | 45 points
Agreed, my shit is dissapearing like crazy, is 8chan all we have left? Also /u/spez is a child molester.
whatiswalnutsauce | 24 points
8chan seems best but I hate the format.
[deleted] | 10 points
Same here, main reason I haven't really used.
[deleted] | 15 points
8chan
archnihilist | 6 points
Just keep the chatter down unless you are presenting something solid. Focus on the evidence. Stay focused. Read the previous threads, so you aren't wasting post count on derailing over old stuff.
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shadilay | 10 points
No one uses it and it isn't maintained.
oh--long--johnson | 4 points
Wrong. Many people use it and it is maintained. I use Voat every day, more so than Reddit.
shadilay | 3 points
/v/news has fewer subscribers than /r/uncensorednews does. The main news sub is considerably less active than a small offshoot on Reddit is. Niche subs on Voat never catch on and die out much more quickly than niche subs on Reddit, as well.
oh--long--johnson | 3 points
You said no one uses it and it is not maintained which are both not true. I am not comparing it to Reddit. Yes Reddit has more active users. So what? The OP was looking for a place to post and discuss without fear of censorship and Voat is just such a place. OP was not asking for most popular place....Why trash Voat? If no one uses it, then should not bother you.
Zinnsee | 5 points
No, there is absolutely not. Unless, all you care about is dank memes and funny cat pics. Luckily not much of those on Voat.
KiA423469420 | 3 points
I was thinking about suggesting this myself. The relative unpopularity of Voat isn't a problem for a small group of people planning to go there and work together from obscurity.
saltysiy | 9 points
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5cldjx/anonymous_irc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5clut3/created_a_github_repo_to_fight_the_censorship/
Ninjakick666 | 8 points
Twitter seems to be getting away with it... they still have all the pizzagate and spiritcooking stuff up... even if was hidden from trending before.
Zinnsee | 8 points
Voat will welcome you guys. One of you posted the Olsen pizza song on Voat and linked to this place. This is my first reddit comment in about 2 years. Voat is great, maybe more for the mature audience. But since Pizzagate is a rather 'mature topic' I thought to reach out a hand and welcome you to check out Voat.
ned_harriman | 5 points
Fire up a /v/pizzagate please, and confirm via PM that it's you. I'll add it to the list.
kingkongwaswrong | 2 points
i made a v pizzagate, what do you mean confirm via pm that its me?
ned_harriman | 3 points
Thanks I'll add https://voat.co/v/pizzagate to the stickied post. PM incoming
commetPI | 7 points
This is also dangerous. It gives us no protection, especially the person setting up any server. I suggest we get organised and go off in splinter groups and post privately until there is better evidence to post.
The--Lodge | 4 points
I agree, in the meantime get familiar with King9Lodge, that will be the next meeting ground once the program is complete.
Lonecrow66 | 4 points
Go to voat. Reason why things are going to get deleted is probably because FBI already has an investigation and this will ruin everything they've collected. Like spooking a deer you've been hunting.
We KNOW the NYPD knows about this stuff. There are also cases they do this to blackmail foreign dignitaries. Its been done for a long time. Russians did this during the cold war.
unicorntrash | 3 points
Reason why things are going to get deleted is probably because FBI already has an investigatio
Or maybe because witchhunting and publishing personal information was never allowed on reddit? (Well witchhunting was, but not after the boston thing)
The_Ruffneck | 3 points
We need to gather all evidence - photos, infographics, videos into a zip and upload to a torrent site.The visual evidence is being taken down all over the place, we need to make it easier to access that evidence.
ned_harriman | 2 points
Please review and add this stuff to your post
Feel free to pop into Matrix and discuss anonymously and encrypted with me. Also, PM me if you have any questions I should be online for a few more hours.
stopcensoringpizzaga | 1 points
Hey, thanks for putting that together. I've added it to the post. I will be popping in and out of the Matrix convo. Doing more research now.
wrathofheaven1111 | 2 points
Guys I have an idea for this and have used this method for a year it works. We can use a collaberative table solution so any number of people can free flow organically add to the document a piece which records the date of evidence detail, archive link and link and tag. Thats it. then set it loose. very quickly the picture will form of how it all links together. As the tag web builds later we can then categorise the evidence with more detailed tags that link the individual submissions to individual cases that link together into the bigger picture.
I have been trying to find help for this but usually the one word bogus answer trick shoots it down before it is considered. I really think this will cause a huge revealing. We have many coders, is this very simple to do? is there something that exists already we can use for this?
The--Lodge | 1 points
Can someone quickly write up a nice webpage interface or is that practically impossible in a short amount of time?
commetPI | 2 points
Can someone quickly write up a nice webpage interface or is that practically impossible in a short amount of time?
nodeBB is a good open-source option. But who and where to host?
The--Lodge | 2 points
Do you need big servers to host these kinds of things or anyone can?
DepressedExplorer | 1 points
Well you need a good lawyer and real anonymous offshore hosting for a start. This shit is not legal.
stopcensoringpizzaga | 2 points
Why is this not legal? We are searching and relaying information that's made publicly available. It's fair game.
DepressedExplorer | 3 points
There are a few points that are critical:
The images & Zips. Mirroring this data could be fatal because we dont know what is actually contained. "Owning" child pornography in any way (even if you cant access it) is illegal.
"Drawing connections" can and will be interpreted as defamation & slender. Owning a domain, and therefore having data "public" does not make you to a public person.
The pictures and texts are not owned by you, therefore could they be DCMA'd. Ignoring such a request is also illegal.
Probably a few more points. Also something like reddit can not simply be seized. If police thinks one of the above points is the case (which it is obviously, the question is when they realize that) they are able to seize the servers, so hosting anywhere else than in a country that simply does not care would most likely not work for long.
ZornsLemmon | 101 points | Nov 12 2016 19:28:15
Agreed. Reddit is hellbent on censoring this.
/u/spez SUPPORTS CHILD RAPE
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exicleus | 15 points | Nov 13 2016 00:29:56
It's too much of an open public forum here on Reddit. Reddit pulls a wider innocent audience but at the cost of being countered by the bad guys. If you want to counter the bad guys then 4chan/8chan would be the best bet. They're pretty much fucked there. Complainers will be told to fuck off or targeted. This stuff is already in the open out of the darknet.
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ned_harriman | 5 points | Nov 13 2016 02:43:37
There are a lot of other tools in addition to the chans. Matrix for instance. Here is a post with some places we've created where we can post and discuss evident
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