FalcoLombardiPhD | 26 points
Anyone else get a serious mk ultra / monarch programming vibe from all this?
Not gonna lie, I've been down the mk ultra rabbit hole before but wasn't entirely too sure about it, but a ton of what I've seen come out of this story completely lines up with it. To the point I think it's actually a major issue and may be more rampant than we even anticipated. Thoughts?
throwawayfortoday210 | 4 points
yeah before pizza gate I came across T Podesta's art... if there is a theme besides just creepy pedo it seems to pretty much be mk ultra. Even Abromovic talks about a performance state (dissociation) in order to push yourself to limits you couldn't before. And the arch of hysteria...why anyone would want to see that every day is beyond me. What charcot did to his patients is tantamount to torture. Check out the 2d art by that sculpture artist- looks like another example of a classic dissociative artist to me. It's like there are mk ultra fingerprints everywhere.
The thing is..if MK Ultra continued and were used as planned these are the exact folks that would be being blackmailed. Also the state department is exactly who would use mked human messengers/head files. Maybe these are podesta's "other channels." Ugh. in the old days I'd say that means we have to find a CIA connection too because who is "handling" this ring of handlers?
EvanSt19 | 3 points
Very possible. They would abuse the kids so bad to the point that it fractures their minds, to create multiple personalities. They can create the perfect assassin that way, or drug dealer, ect. Because one personality wouldn't be aware of the other.
dacv393 | 2 points
http://www.stewwebb.com/2016/05/25/hillary-clinton-lesbian-demon-pedophile-child-rapist/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O%27Brien_(conspiracy_theorist)
http://www.sherrikane.com/
A year ago if I read all this info I would have thought it was crazy but this all ties together.
pelirrojo | 2 points
Tldr of mkultra and monarch please? There's too much info out there to really start to understand it
drop_the_hammer | 4 points
Super tl;dr: MKUltra is a CIA mind control program. I haven't looked into Monarch but I assume it's very similar (if not part of the same project).
What has been proven: They have been confirmed basically stealing children for their tests/whatever else.
What has been speculated: Look up Cathy O'Brien and listen to her speak about it. She claims to have been a subject of MKUltra until she was rescued. She alleges the "mind control" (or the extent of the CIA's knowledge of the brain and how to manipulate it) was so advanced that they basically "partitioned" the brain so that even if you were to try to remember their abuse, they wouldn't be able to. Furthermore, they allegedly could develop multiple personality disorders on their subjects and even control their behavior. O'Brien claims she was involved in drug running assignments for the Bushes and Clintons.
okbye65 | 3 points
Project Monarch is what Kathy O'Brien claims MKULTRA became after it was "shutdown". Similiar to how Project Artichoke became MKULTRA.
Project Bluebird > Project Artichoke > Project MKULTRA > Project Monarch
drop_the_hammer | 2 points
Thank you. I was just looking into it now, but I figured the situation was something along those lines.
nottheoretical | 14 points | Nov 11 2016 15:17:56
Not just a vibe, i personally have zero doubt that is what we are talking about.
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FalcoLombardiPhD | 9 points | Nov 11 2016 15:19:31
Same. I just can't believe it goes on still, let alone this much. Elite is so fucked up
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nottheoretical | 5 points | Nov 11 2016 15:53:29
Old habits die hard for these monsters. Their kind has been around a long time.
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Sister_Lauren | 3 points | Nov 11 2016 16:54:52
Obviously it is working for them.
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